El Capitan OSX
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El Capitan OSX
Any reason at this point not to upgrade to it?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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- Kellog
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Re: El Capitan OSX
I did so recently and everything is working (except theres no support/drivers for old Canon pixma printers-boo Canon- unrelated to here tho).
However DP 9.02 does seem a bit tentative- it has crashed or hung during some moves (like switching from one sequence to another, and switching from one Mixing board layout to another- but has also done both of those ok since the initial snags). I changed my OS and Dp version at the same time tho so I'm not sure what is the troubled party honestly.
All my plugs/synths and 32 lives seem good (haven't opened Sampletank yet). I'm pleased overall. I was having Macbook issues with Skype and my Thunderbolt ports b4 with OS 10.8 and those appear resolved.
I'm eagerly awaiting the newer DP update with hopes of lower CPU usage!
Good luck if you go for it!
However DP 9.02 does seem a bit tentative- it has crashed or hung during some moves (like switching from one sequence to another, and switching from one Mixing board layout to another- but has also done both of those ok since the initial snags). I changed my OS and Dp version at the same time tho so I'm not sure what is the troubled party honestly.
All my plugs/synths and 32 lives seem good (haven't opened Sampletank yet). I'm pleased overall. I was having Macbook issues with Skype and my Thunderbolt ports b4 with OS 10.8 and those appear resolved.
I'm eagerly awaiting the newer DP update with hopes of lower CPU usage!
Good luck if you go for it!
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- mikehalloran
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Some of my clients have this issue. Print drivers for many older Canon printers were no longer bundled starting with Yosemite. If you updated the OS instead of doing a clean install, this is not an issue—likewise with El Capitan.
I found the print and scan drivers for Mavericks on the Canon site, installed those and everything is working again. I wrote out a set of instructions but they're not on my iPad. I'll post if you need them.
I found the print and scan drivers for Mavericks on the Canon site, installed those and everything is working again. I wrote out a set of instructions but they're not on my iPad. I'll post if you need them.
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- Kellog
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Thanks Mike. I found a work around set of drivers by Gutenprint that seems to be working. Haven't used the printer much but it appears to be seen and by the OS now. If it fails in the near future I may reach out to you. Thanks again!
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- MIDI Life Crisis
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Most things are running better in El Cap. A couple of apps went South but nothing I can't live w/o. All my Adobe and MA Office stuff work. Final Cut Express it dead. I'll miss that but can run it on my older machine.
Re: El Capitan OSX
I updated, but reverted to Yosemite. The problem was the Mac would not restart after 10.11 was installed. I've found a number of discussions of this problem and it appears to be a problem with extensions. There are a number of them that will cause 10.11 to freeze during the startup process. It's a consequence of Apple's increased focus on security. The solutions: a) find out which extension is the culprit and remove it (a tedious process of elimination), or b) do a clean install and reinstall all your apps (equally or more tedious).
There was an update to 10.11 that said in an indirect way they had addressed the problem, but the posts on the problem suggest the fix was not complete. There's also some finger pointing going on about whether Apple should test for and remove offending extensions, or whether developers should have paid attention to Apple and updated their apps. Either way, there are a lot of people out there whose Macs became doorstops.
The days spent recovering from this has put me in the "if it works, leave it alone" camp.
There was an update to 10.11 that said in an indirect way they had addressed the problem, but the posts on the problem suggest the fix was not complete. There's also some finger pointing going on about whether Apple should test for and remove offending extensions, or whether developers should have paid attention to Apple and updated their apps. Either way, there are a lot of people out there whose Macs became doorstops.
The days spent recovering from this has put me in the "if it works, leave it alone" camp.
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Thanks very much for all this good info !!!
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- mhschmieder
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Excellent info. I had been planning on holding out until finishing the main phase of production on my jazz album, just as last year I didn't upgrade to Yosemite until finishing all but the final mastering touches on a metal album.
Good to know about possible Extensions conflicts, and what to do if my Canon printer isn't happy after the El Capitan upgrade.
Good to know about possible Extensions conflicts, and what to do if my Canon printer isn't happy after the El Capitan upgrade.
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Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35
Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, Johhny Marr Jaguar, 57 LP, Danelectro 12
Eastman T486RB, T64/V, Ibanez PM2, D'angelico Deluxe SS Bari, EXL1
Guild Bari, 1512 12-string, M20, Martin OM28VTS, Larivee 0040MH
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Well...I did the upgrade and everything is working fine, including plug-ins, VIs, VE Pro and Finale.
Pretty painless to do. Took about 20 minutes.
Printers (HP & Brother) are working fine.
Pretty painless to do. Took about 20 minutes.
Printers (HP & Brother) are working fine.
OSX Big Sur (latest). Mac Pro Late 2013 ("trash-can"), 3.5 Ghz 6-Core Intel XeonE5, 64GB RAM. Motu DP 11.03, Vienna Pro Server, Presonus Notion, Osculator, Keyboard Maestro
- MIDI Life Crisis
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Pretty much the same here. Everyone talking about taking the leap off a big cliff and it was more like stepping off a curb.
Re: El Capitan OSX
In my case, onto a broken sewer grate over a sink hole.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:it was more like stepping off a curb.
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- mikehalloran
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Re: El Capitan OSX
Why Apple is no longer including certain Canon print drivers is anyone's guess — especially since many of these printers were bundled at no extra charge if you bought from the Apple Store.
This will re-enable many
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27696/ ... er-drivers
If not, you'll find them by model here
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/port ... me/support
The generic CUPS drivers will often get the job done but often the mfr's drivers are necessary to enable the full print and scan functionality.
This will re-enable many
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/27696/ ... er-drivers
If not, you'll find them by model here
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/port ... me/support
The generic CUPS drivers will often get the job done but often the mfr's drivers are necessary to enable the full print and scan functionality.
DP 11.31; 828mkII FW, micro lite, M4, MTP/AV USB Firmware 2.0.1
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Re: El Capitan OSX
For the brief time I had 10.11 on my MBP I was able to get an updated driver for my Canon printer from the Canon website.
2018 Mini i7 32G 10.14.6, DP 11.3, Mixbus 9, Logic 10.5, Scarlett 18i8