Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
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- buzzsmith
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Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
I don't recall this happening before.
This is a multi-song project (track and vocal) and this is song 1. The waveform shows the "dreaded" black bar but plays just fine.
The backup copy also shows the same anomaly.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Buzzy
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- buzzsmith
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
On a hunch, I exported the soundbite as a deinterleaved AIFF file to the desktop. I opened another template and it popped right in showing its "true colors".
I then dragged the new AIFF back into the track-vocal project and the waveform is visible and functioning.
Still Clueless in Houston.
Buzzy
I then dragged the new AIFF back into the track-vocal project and the waveform is visible and functioning.
Still Clueless in Houston.
Buzzy
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DP 9.51 PCI-424e / original 2408, 2408mkII, 24I/O, MTP-AV
Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
DP 9.51 PCI-424e / original 2408, 2408mkII, 24I/O, MTP-AV
Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
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- Shooshie
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
That's only happened to me a couple times. I still don't know what causes it.
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
I think I fixed this for myself once by trashing the files in the Analysis Files folder and letting DP reanalyze after restarting DP.
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- buzzsmith
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
Makes sense, TTM.Tritonemusic wrote:I think I fixed this for myself once by trashing the files in the Analysis Files folder and letting DP reanalyze after restarting DP.
I may try this on a backup copy just for my own edification.
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Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
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Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
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- mhschmieder
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
Oh? It's rare that I see anything BUT the black bar, since upgrading to DP9.
I've been assuming all along that it is Operator Error and that some defaulting of a new feature is causing this to happen. Nothing showed up in Preferences, but I haven't dived deeply enough into the local menus and how the parallels feature (or whatever it's called) works. Assuming it's to blame.
Hmm, I wonder if trashing the analysis files will help, as suggested? For me though, it happens also on brand-new fresh tracks just added to the project. Maybe that doesn't matter though.
I'll try to remember to login to post again later tonight, as this is likely the first thing I'll do when I start a session after dinner.
I've been assuming all along that it is Operator Error and that some defaulting of a new feature is causing this to happen. Nothing showed up in Preferences, but I haven't dived deeply enough into the local menus and how the parallels feature (or whatever it's called) works. Assuming it's to blame.
Hmm, I wonder if trashing the analysis files will help, as suggested? For me though, it happens also on brand-new fresh tracks just added to the project. Maybe that doesn't matter though.
I'll try to remember to login to post again later tonight, as this is likely the first thing I'll do when I start a session after dinner.
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
I should have mentioned that I'm still on DP 8.05.
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DP 9.51 PCI-424e / original 2408, 2408mkII, 24I/O, MTP-AV
Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
DP 9.51 PCI-424e / original 2408, 2408mkII, 24I/O, MTP-AV
Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
I should have mentioned that this happened to me in a version of DP7, Buzz. No harm can come from reanalyzing the files, so I'd give it a try. I think your idea of trying it on a backup is wise, however.
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- mhschmieder
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Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
Curiouser and curiouser. I didn't get around to re-analyzing files as I was so busy using every minute of my day to get massive amounts of work done on a jazz project this weekend. I definitely want to do a backup before I try that!
I'm trying to think whether this ever happened to me before DP9, and I think it did, but rarely. Maybe we can narrow it down to specific actions or workflow order. At any rate, if re-analyzing straightens it out, it's just a matter of doing backups first for safety.
I'm trying to think whether this ever happened to me before DP9, and I think it did, but rarely. Maybe we can narrow it down to specific actions or workflow order. At any rate, if re-analyzing straightens it out, it's just a matter of doing backups first for safety.
iMac 27" 2017 Quad-Core Intel i5 (3.8 GHz, 64 GB), OSX 13.6.6, MOTU DP 11.31, iZotope RX 10
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Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35
Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, Johhny Marr Jaguar, 57 LP, Danelectro 12
Eastman T486RB, T64/V, Ibanez PM2, D'angelico Deluxe SS Bari, EXL1
Guild Bari, 1512 12-string, M20, Martin OM28VTS, Larivee 0040MH
RME Babyface Pro FS, Radial JDV Mk5, Hammond XK-4, Moog Voyager
Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35
Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, Johhny Marr Jaguar, 57 LP, Danelectro 12
Eastman T486RB, T64/V, Ibanez PM2, D'angelico Deluxe SS Bari, EXL1
Guild Bari, 1512 12-string, M20, Martin OM28VTS, Larivee 0040MH
Re: Waveform Showing the Black Bar - But Audio Is There!?
This happened to me often in DP8, especially with long takes >20,30,60mins. It had been talked about on here before and was assumed to be some bug with long files and trashing analysis folder did seem to fix it sometimes. That said, have NOT seen it yet in DP9.