DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

Post by FMiguelez »

Hello.

This is the second time I notice DP9.01 forgetting some of its crossfade edits after reopening the session (different projects).

I had noticed something weird about this a few days ago, but I thought I was just tired and it was my mistake. But yesterday night it happened again... I kept hearing clicks and pops, and, when seeing what was happening, I noticed that A LOT (20 to 30%) of the previously made edits were gone (the fades in/out or crossfades were gone).

Has anyone else noticed this?
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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Yes! I noticed that.

Yesterday I was mixing with DP9.01 a session that was made on DP8.07 and noticed some plops and clicks, I tought that maybe this was happening because it was originally edited on a previous version of DP.


Hope they fix this soon, I think I'm going back to DP8.07 again :(
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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Does 9.0 do this too?
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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labman wrote:Does 9.0 do this too?
I didn't notice it there, labman.
But I would look out for this anyway... I can't think of something they did to DP9.01 exclusively that ruined the fades feature.

But it's really annoying, especially when you check your "final" version –with fresh ears, a couple of days later, just before the final bounce–, only to find sudden clicks an pops all over the place. Those are the same edits that took you hours to finely craft days before!

I had to go track by track redoing my crossfades for my last project. Twice.
I suppose I'll have to tame my vocalists' consonants by automating Bite Volume instead of cutting the SBs for Bite Gain while MOTU repairs this.

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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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Has anyone reported it to MOTU? I haven't seen this one... yet.
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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I just took the 5 minutes to create a MOTU techlink.

I really don't like this. Last time it happened was around DP6 or so...
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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Do you know if the missing crossfades were put there using DP 8? Or were some or all of them put there using DP 9? I have a large project created in 9 for testing -- it has dozens of fades and none of them are disappearing -- yet.
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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The last 2 projects, where I noticed this issue, were created from my template, from a version modified after I upgraded to 9.01 from 9.0.

So they were created and opened by DP9.01/
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FMiguelez wrote:So they were created and opened by DP9.01/
Thanks. I'll have to watch more closely.
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I had this happen in version 9.0 and now once in 9.01. In particular, I have some clip files that I took from files I had orginally created in earlier versions of DP. When I drag them into DP 9 or 9.01, the cross fades have all vanished. And I did have it happen once to a file that I recorded in DP 9, edited in DP 9, and then later found the crossfades gone. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen (and is extremely irritating).

I learned the value of control-F, but that makes all crossfades the same and you need to determine whether some need to be faster than others and fix them all.
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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This is not a nice way of saying this fellow MOTU 9 users but i am glad to read that others are having this problem.
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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Yesterday I was mixing a song with DP 9.01 and suddenly the track I was automating went crazy!
I pressed stop, and when I played again the song the level was FUL BLAST, it almost blew my speakers. Very crazy, because the screen showed the fader at zero, but the output of the track was full volume and it didn't respond.

I had to quit and restart DP and it worked again.

I will fill a tech note tomorrow because this is a terrible bug.
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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My support ticket was looked at last week.

Robin is trying to reproduce the "lost crossfades" bug, but so far she hasn't had luck doing it.
Hopefully she will run into this issue, so she can send it to the engineers.

If anyone else is having this problem, please let MOTU know with a support ticket. Otherwise, do not cry and whine when this is not resolved in the next update...
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Re: DP9.01 forgetting its crossfade edits!

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Yes, I've had it happen a few times, but thought maybe I'd switched chunks and gotten it confused. I didn't have a chance to do a more thorough problem evaluation session yet.
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