DP9 worth getting or wait for DP10?

[MIDI Life Crisis]

DP 6 was the Pia Zadora of MOTU releases... useless here as well.

[mikehalloran]

I'm waiting for a spare two bills to make themselves available. Till then, I am in no hurry. A version release may help me change my mind.

DP 6 made me run screaming back to 5. I didn't update till after 8 was announced and got 7.24 in the process.

DP 7.24 crashed when opening most of my older files so I had to borrow a 7.01 CD and download 7.12 to figure out my problems. 7.01 opened them fine and the 7.12 Background Processing Window allowed me to diagnose the problem and fix it.

[bayswater]

My demo expired yesterday in the middle of a project that made a lot of use of the FET 76 that was coming along well. Since very few of the bugs reported have happened to me, I paid for a key code.

I know it's a coincidence, but the first time I started DP 9 after registering, it crashed. The demo didn't crash at all, and it has behaved properly since.

[mikehalloran]

I know it's a coincidence, but the first time I started DP 9 after registering, it crashed

Every time I installed a later version of DP 8, it crashed the first time I used it, then gave me no more problems.

[mhschmieder]

Willie, I don't know, but think I remember reading something about the project open efficiencies in one of MOTU's announcements.

Possibly they are doing a better job of multi-threading when it comes to background tasks, or maybe not loading all audio files in the project right away and only the ones that are enabled and/or in the currently active chunk? Yet chunk-switching itself is also now almost instantaneous. So I suspect they are making greater use of scheduled tasks as part of the application (via multi-threading or even multiple processes).

It wouldn't surprise me if the port to Windows caused them to do different stuff with threading, which they could then port back to the Mac for Version 9. Although there are limitations on the Mac due to the GUI pipeline itself (not the only thing join on in an app, of course) doesn't have the threading flexibility of a Windows box.

Which brings up an interesting inquiry as to which platform version of DP is the more efficient at this point in time (not that I would switch to Windows if it was faster -- especially given that the Mac version seems altogether faster for everything now than before, and more reliable for Bounce to Disc as well).

[musicman691]

I make a living with DP, and I have since version 1.7 (and Performer before that). So I pay MOTU for every point-oh upgrade. It's not expensive compared to any other professional software (Adobe, ProTools, etc.), and it's my contribution to the continuing development of the very best DAW for me and my work.

But that aside, I like the update. Lots of small productivity enhancements, MX4 is better than I expected, the FET-76 is nice, and some under the hood stuff make it well worth the price. 9.1 will be sweet and coming soon.

Agreed on most parts. And thankfully DP hasn't gone the subscription route like Adobe and now PT (which is why I'm switching to DP).

I'm liking MX4 except for one small item - it doesn't remember MIDI learn assignments. Raised a Techlink on this and was told that it never did but should be fixed in the next DP update. And for me the productivity enhancements aren't small at all but help me to get along a lot better with DP.

[Basstrup]

But also because the kind of features that were included in DP9 was the stuff I expected in a free 8.1 update because version 8 didn't bring much new, it was mainly a windows port and under the hood stuff.

Having recently mixed a CD in DP8 made me appreciate how many new things were introduced with DP8. So sorry you don't feel you get much.

I could bitch and moan - owning not only ONE license of MX4 - but TWO - that I have to pay the upgrade fee for DP9. So am I paying an upgrade fee for MX4, DP9 or what. I certainly would like MOTU have done more with DP9, things like porting the phase meter and such from CueMix (seems like a minor task) - but hey, I got MX4 64bit and the FET76, and not to mention somebody who picks up the phone when you call for support, somebody's gotta pay for that. I am happy

[scooter]

In my personal experience, having mega-projects open up in under 10 seconds vs. taking up to 10 minutes, is worth $200 on its own

Boy, I'm with you on that one. So really? Is it that much faster to open a project?

scooter

[bayswater]

It's noticeably faster here, but nothing like the difference between 10 sec and 10 minutes.

[musicman691]

It's noticeably faster here, but nothing like the difference between 10 sec and 10 minutes.

For me I'd say projects open about twice as fast in DP9 as the same ones do in DP8 which is nothing to sneeze at.

[Tritonemusic]

It's noticeably faster here, but nothing like the difference between 10 sec and 10 minutes.

For me I'd say projects open about twice as fast in DP9 as the same ones do in DP8 which is nothing to sneeze at.

Agreed. However, if previous projects actually took 10 minutes (!) to open, and then suddenly went down to 10 seconds...I think something wasn't quite right with the DAW setup in the first place.

[mikehalloran]

It's noticeably faster here, but nothing like the difference between 10 sec and 10 minutes.

For me I'd say projects open about twice as fast in DP9 as the same ones do in DP8 which is nothing to sneeze at.

Agreed. However, if previous projects actually took 10 minutes (!) to open, and then suddenly went down to 10 seconds...I think something wasn't quite right with the DAW setup in the first place.

You are free to think that.

I can duplicate the 10 minute project opening on my wife's iMac i5. Having to do a project on an identical machine drove me nuts every morning when I opened it for the first time and waited even longer than that. My i7 was much, much faster even with mechanical HDs.

At some point, I'll be installing DP 9 into her iMac later this summer and will be able to A/B the opening time. I don't know if it will be a 10:1 ratio but won't surprise me if it is.

[Tritonemusic]

You are free to think that.

Gee, thanks.

[musicman691]

You are free to think that.

I can duplicate the 10 minute project opening on my wife's iMac i5. Having to do a project on an identical machine drove me nuts every morning when I opened it for the first time and waited even longer than that. My i7 was much, much faster even with mechanical HDs.

At some point, I'll be installing DP 9 into her iMac later this summer and will be able to A/B the opening time. I don't know if it will be a 10:1 ratio but won't surprise me if it is.

It's actually a 60 to 1 ratio (10 minutes to 10 seconds) but I'd accept even a 10 to 1 ration.

[mikehalloran]

You are free to think that.

I can duplicate the 10 minute project opening on my wife's iMac i5. Having to do a project on an identical machine drove me nuts every morning when I opened it for the first time and waited even longer than that. My i7 was much, much faster even with mechanical HDs.

At some point, I'll be installing DP 9 into her iMac later this summer and will be able to A/B the opening time. I don't know if it will be a 10:1 ratio but won't surprise me if it is.

It's actually a 60 to 1 ratio (10 minutes to 10 seconds) but I'd accept even a 10 to 1 ration.

youre right.

I have the same project saved to my iMac, my wife's, on an HD and SSD. If they ever let me leave Burlington, VT, I'll be able to time the opening in three of the four modes; the fourth when I install an SSD later this summer.

They just let us deplane. My 11:30am flight has just been pushed back to 5:45pm because of weather at JFK. My connector is supposed to leave at 4pm. So, I've little to do at BVT airport for the next three hours -- if they let me leave.

Gee. thanks

Ahhh... sarcasm when you can neither verify nor disprove the statement. And me with time on my hands... Not always a good combination.