DP9, So far so good!

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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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Good to hear.

In my case (and I saw this in the GS posted list of minor changes) the new default to automation always being on is going to be a killer, but I've already recently had to get in the habit of turning it off globally and track-by-track anyway.

Too many VI's and libraries are now doing the wrong thing and/or not providing hooks to ignore or filter certain stuff. Not MOTU's fault, of course.

At any rate, it sounds like for projects that have no MIDI in them, or that don't use libraries or VI's that are partially crippled regarding CC's, that it is safe to upgrade to DP9 mid-project.
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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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musicman691 wrote:I thought MIDI learn would be cool and it may be, but it's a pain in the arse to get it to work, at least with MX4. I tried a very simple one of mapping overall volume to MIDI cc7 as sent from my keyboard controller pedal. The control remaps and works no problem. The problem comes in when you close the session, quit DP and then re-open DP and that session. The mapping is NOT remembered.
This is really dissapointing if true. I love custom consoles but I have come across a lot of similar troubles and bugs using them in the past and I was hoping they were all fixed up and working properly.
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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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mhschmieder wrote:Good to hear.

In my case (and I saw this in the GS posted list of minor changes) the new default to automation always being on is going to be a killer, but I've already recently had to get in the habit of turning it off globally and track-by-track anyway.

Too many VI's and libraries are now doing the wrong thing and/or not providing hooks to ignore or filter certain stuff. Not MOTU's fault, of course.

At any rate, it sounds like for projects that have no MIDI in them, or that don't use libraries or VI's that are partially crippled regarding CC's, that it is safe to upgrade to DP9 mid-project.
I don't remember if I posted this in this thread or another but installing DP9 does NOT overwrite your DP8 install. So there shouldn't be any worries; just don't use DP9 on the current work in progress.
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stoecklem wrote:
musicman691 wrote:I thought MIDI learn would be cool and it may be, but it's a pain in the arse to get it to work, at least with MX4. I tried a very simple one of mapping overall volume to MIDI cc7 as sent from my keyboard controller pedal. The control remaps and works no problem. The problem comes in when you close the session, quit DP and then re-open DP and that session. The mapping is NOT remembered.
This is really dissapointing if true. I love custom consoles but I have come across a lot of similar troubles and bugs using them in the past and I was hoping they were all fixed up and working properly.
So this might not exactly be a new issue then I guess? I tried following the manual on this.
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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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I'm not sure there's a bug. Some MIDI info is not saved. I'm not understanding where your issue lies. Also, there are issues with all builds of the OS -- the worst ones seem to be in 10.9.4 and 10.10.2 but that factor cannot be ruled out.

Definitely post a Tech Link and see if MOTU can sort it out.
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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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Only a couple of crashes - one when changing a parameter in MX4 - but so far so good. Now odd thing a custom theme I made in DP 8.0.7 (a theme based on the carbon) can't be used - is being reported as DP 7 - 8.

Much good stuff. Still room for improvement...
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Basstrup wrote:Now odd thing a custom theme I made in DP 8.0.7 (a theme based on the carbon) can't be used - is being reported as DP 7 - 8.

Much good stuff. Still room for improvement...
Go to your personnal Theme (HD/ Library/ Application Support/ MOTU / Digital Performer / Themes) and right-click on this .
Then, choice the "Show Package Contents" option ans open the Info.plist file .
At the end of the listing, we can see: <key>ThemeMaxVersion</key>
<string>8.0</string> _
Replace 8.0 by 9.0 at the last line for the ThemeMaxVersion and D.P. 9 will recognize your Theme . :wink:

For a correct image at the launch of this version 9, you have to exchange the kDigitalPerformer_LogoWindow.png file with the new which is quite successful in your Theme folder.


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Waveform graphics in the TO now display lower level passages again as they did in DP7 and before.
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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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Kudos to MOTU for continuing the development of DP!

I'm using DP every day to make music.

Really cool new features and improvements in DP9!

I'm very happy that DP9 installed easily and works with my DP8 sessions.
Seems to hit the processor a bit harder with these sessions.
Processor overload spikes... with DP8 sessions that were at 50%.

I'm on a mac pro 12 core with OS 10.9.5
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mikehalloran wrote:I'm not sure there's a bug. Some MIDI info is not saved. I'm not understanding where your issue lies. Also, there are issues with all builds of the OS -- the worst ones seem to be in 10.9.4 and 10.10.2 but that factor cannot be ruled out.

Definitely post a Tech Link and see if MOTU can sort it out.
I told exactly where my issue lies - when I MIDI learned master volume to MIDI cc7 for MX4 that assignment is not remembered when a session is saved, closed, DP quit, DP re-opened and session re-opened. And if you see my sig file you seer that I'm running OSX 10.9.5 (that's my main) and OSX 10.8.5 for an old version of ProTools.

What exactly do you mean by 'some MIDI info is not saved'? Do you know which info and would you impart that upon us please? No need to be cryptic.

Last time I posted a Techlink MOTU did not respond and that was a few weeks ago.

Edit for additional:
I can't post a Techlink on this because DP9 is STILL not showing in my registered products. Magic Dave said it will take a couple of days for MOTU to catch up on their paperwork and he got me my key code for DP9 on Tuesday afternoon. So until that happens I can't do anything.
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You told us the symptom, not the problem which you don't know. There's a difference and, when trouble shooting, you need to be aware of that.

To be fair, I don't know your problem either. It could be something you didn't do correctly, a problem with DP or even in the OS. Unless someone weighs in on it who does know, a Tech Link is your only choice.

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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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I've just opened my current project in DP9, which uses 1 MachFive, 2 pianoteq, 3 Play, 2 Kontakt, each loaded with cpu-intensive patches, 92 tracks + lots of plugins. In DP8, scrolling was painful on this project (it also contains 24 chunks, some of them are huge sequences), and playback was full of clips and errors when MIDI was playing in realtime (thanks mostly to EastWest Hollywood collection...)

Fast Forward to DP9...

Scrolling is as smooth as it can be (feels like Pro Tools :lol: ), no playback errors whatsoever, the processing meter never go to the red.

I haven't gone deep into DP9's new features yet (I need to finish this project...), but so far, the performance improvement is impressive.

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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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I dared not speak because'm not sure. But for the same project, it loads a bit faster with the new version 9.
But it may be an impression with my old MacPro Rev 1.1 _ :oops:
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musicman691 wrote:Nice thing with installing DP9 is it doesn't overwrite a DP8 install so you can keep on working in DP8 for existing projects.
This has always been the way with DP as far back as I can remember, Jack.

Enjoy the new version, ya bastard!

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Re: DP9, So far so good!

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Morpheo wrote:I've just opened my current project in DP9, which uses 1 MachFive, 2 pianoteq, 3 Play, 2 Kontakt, each loaded with cpu-intensive patches, 92 tracks + lots of plugins. In DP8, scrolling was painful on this project (it also contains 24 chunks, some of them are huge sequences), and playback was full of clips and errors when MIDI was playing in realtime (thanks mostly to EastWest Hollywood collection...)

Fast Forward to DP9...

Scrolling is as smooth as it can be (feels like Pro Tools :lol: ), no playback errors whatsoever, the processing meter never go to the red.

I haven't gone deep into DP9's new features yet (I need to finish this project...), but so far, the performance improvement is impressive.

...Well done MOTU!!! 8)
I haven't done much with 9 yet, but I have the same impression about scrolling, playback, etc. Perhaps the CPU hit noted by some is a result of the background processing noted by TDH. If so, that will go away after a while.
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