iZotope RX Final Mix -- what is it (for)? EZMix/auto-mix?

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iZotope RX Final Mix -- what is it (for)? EZMix/auto-mix?

Post by mhschmieder »

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/pos ... +Final+Mix

It wasn't even announced at GS; just via email to previous customers.

I don't get it. Is it primarily an "auto-mix" program for post-production houses that mostly have video expertise and don't want to be bothered learning how to mix audio? Is it for multi-channel mixing and/or mastering?

Unlike EZMix, at least you can tweak the settings after selecting presets.

I can't figure out the connection to RX and why that's the program with the cross-grade offer, as well as the bundling with the recent RX Loudness Control app that appeared to NOT be for DAW's (or at least for AU/VST).

I am starting to not understand this company that I thought I knew well.
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Post by mikehalloran »

Yea, I puzzled at that, too. I hear nothing that can't be done already. They tout it as a plugin for RX 4 standalone... ok...

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Gotta agree. The email confused me too. I think the OP hit it in on the head as far as the target customer.

I hope they aren't losing their focus.

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Post by billf »

mhschmieder wrote: I don't get it. Is it primarily an "auto-mix" program for post-production houses that mostly have video expertise and don't want to be bothered learning how to mix audio? Is it for multi-channel mixing and/or mastering?
Agreed. I got the email too, checked it out, and think it is for video post. Why is it needed? I have no idea.
mhschmieder wrote:Unlike EZMix, at least you can tweak the settings after selecting presets.
EzMix can be useful, even as part of an insert set of plugins on a channel strip. But this RX Final Mix? I'd rather use Alloy or Ozone.

mhschmieder wrote:I can't figure out the connection to RX and why that's the program with the cross-grade offer, as well as the bundling with the recent RX Loudness Control app that appeared to NOT be for DAW's (or at least for AU/VST).
I agree, the past couple of announcements are head scratchers.
mhschmieder wrote:I am starting to not understand this company that I thought I knew well.
Nor do I care for the current direction. They seem to be pushing Adobe CC a lot suddenly, and if that's how they go, I won't be going with them.
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Post by daniel.sneed »

The *before and after* demo audio tracks are strange to me.
I have yet to see what a serious professional mix could not fix in those tracks without this plug.
Or is it just me?
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Post by Phil O »

daniel.sneed wrote:The *before and after* demo audio tracks are strange to me.
I have yet to see what a serious professional mix could not fix in those tracks without this plug.
Or is it just me?
It's not just you. I just listened to the demos and I had exactly the same thoughts. It's a little strange coming from iZotope.

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Post by daniel.sneed »

Well, I think I won't have any use of it. Saving money...

Some time ago, exact same question raised about Nectar: in my experience, Alloy has all I really need to set and fix any decent voice track.

For sure, Izotope has it's very own way of marketing...

BTW, I do enjoy BreakTweaker, Iris, Alloy and Ozone.
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I downloaded the demo and have to disagree.

I put it across the master two-bus and tried some presets.

Very nice!
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JSmith1234567 wrote:I downloaded the demo and have to disagree.

I put it across the master two-bus and tried some presets.

Very nice!
So is it basically a streamlined Ozone?
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Exactly.

And their presets, like SoundToys, have always been terrific starting points.

FWI...it uses allot of CPU.

I put it on the master bus, and saw my dp-cpu-meter jump, and also discernible latency added.

I had thought of leaving it on the master bus, but not with that much delay/latency added.
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Post by mhschmieder »

Hmm, time is running out, but I still think I'll skip this product.

I don't use Ozone anymore, so probably shouldn't have spent the money to upgrade (especially the advanced version). I rarely use Nectar either.

Alloy is the one I use quite a bit, as it's one of my favourite buss processors for toms and a few other things. Although, as I get to learn the Slate Digital stuff better, I may end up using it on even more stuff than I already do.

RX4 Advanced is probably my favourite and most-used iZotope products at the moment. Too bad it only supports one plug-in at a time though.
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Post by daniel.sneed »

Just guessing. The future will shine bright.
Is automatic mixing coming?

Maybe it will come with presets...
Imagine a Jimmy Hendrix preset? A Nirvana preset? A Beatles preset? A John Coltrane preset? A Beyonce preset?

And maybe a Nobody-Listening-To-Music-Anymore preset, too?
And, of course, a Nobody-Playing-Music-Anymore preset?
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