Pop-editing a Soundbite

[philbrown]

When you're in the Sequence Editor and you double-click a Soundbite, the SB turns white and DP is obviously in some other mode. In all the years I've been using DP I never knew what was going on, and have have only done this by mistake (once or twice a day if I'm editing a lot). I FINALLY found one reference to it on p.351 where it's called 'pop-editing' and there's a vague (to me) reference to scrubbing. Is that the only purpose of that mode? Seems like there must be more to it or something I'm not understanding. I never use audio scrubbing so maybe that's why I don't get it.

[Phil O]

It must be a Phil thing, Phil. I've never used this "feature" and don't have a clue as to how it's used. It's one of those things I've just ignored through the years and have probably wasted valuable time having not learned the true power of pop-editing. Oh well.

Phil

[Robert Randolph]

When you're in the Sequence Editor and you double-click a Soundbite, the SB turns white and DP is obviously in some other mode. In all the years I've been using DP I never knew what was going on, and have have only done this by mistake (once or twice a day if I'm editing a lot). I FINALLY found one reference to it on p.351 where it's called 'pop-editing' and there's a vague (to me) reference to scrubbing. Is that the only purpose of that mode? Seems like there must be more to it or something I'm not understanding. I never use audio scrubbing so maybe that's why I don't get it.

It's also used for setting sync points (pgs. 354-355) and pureDSP operations (pg. 857).

[philbrown]

It's also used for setting sync points (pgs. 354-355) and pureDSP operations (pg. 857).

Hmm. My DP8 manual pages and yours don't match, Robert. Sync points in my manual is on p. 352-353. Thanks for the info though.

This reminds me of how many functions in DP I don't use.
I'm The Mayor of Simpleton as far as some aspects of DP go I guess.

[Phil O]

Yeah, me too, Phil. I rarely use sync points and when I have, I've set them in the waveform editor window (I think - can't remember). I've probably used Scrub once. Anyway, if there's something I'm missing about pop-editing, please chime in. Thanks for the question, Phil.

Regarding the manual, I find that my page numbers (for DP8) often do not line up with others here. I wonder if there were two different printings of that manual.

Phil

[mikehalloran]

The printed page numbers do not agree with the number of pages in the .pdf file. This is very common since books don't number the cover as pg. 1.

Could that be the issue?

[philbrown]

The printed page numbers do not agree with the number of pages in the .pdf file. This is very common since books don't number the cover as pg. 1.

Could that be the issue?

Probly. I still go by the book.

[Robert Randolph]

It's also used for setting sync points (pgs. 354-355) and pureDSP operations (pg. 857).

Hmm. My DP8 manual pages and yours don't match, Robert. Sync points in my manual is on p. 352-353. Thanks for the info though.

This reminds me of how many functions in DP I don't use.
I'm The Mayor of Simpleton as far as some aspects of DP go I guess.

Yeah, it's 352-353 in the book here as well.

I always have the pdf open on my system, so that's my goto.

[musicman691]

The printed page numbers do not agree with the number of pages in the .pdf file. This is very common since books don't number the cover as pg. 1.

Could that be the issue?

Didn't I read here there were different versions of the DP8 manual - one with the plugins in it before that got split out to it's own document?

Actually I've seen some things that are different in the pdf versus the printed manual and it's not just page numbering.

[philbrown]

I always have the pdf open on my system

That's the best tip of the day.

[Tritonemusic]

Didn't I read here there were different versions of the DP8 manual...

Even though I'm still using 7.24, I believe you are correct. There have been posts about this before.

[Tritonemusic]

I do recall working on a project where I had to do painfully extensive drum edits (audio, not MIDI).

I remember getting a lot of mileage with Pop-editing because of how it works. I could make a selection, and it automatically would sound the selection for me. While this was happening, I held the Shift key down and either extended or shrunk my selection (either by clicking before or after the selected material, automatically hearing exactly what I'm selecting. I really don't know if my description is understandable, but I could try and rephrase it, if I'm not making any sense.

I'm not aware of any other way to do this in DP.

[mikehalloran]

Searchable .pdf files are my friend. With my two or three monitor setup, the DP User Guide sits in a corner if I need it. I have never cracked the print manual in DP 8. If things are different between the two, I wouldn't know.

[Shooshie]

It's also used for setting sync points (pgs. 354-355) and pureDSP operations (pg. 857).

Hmm. My DP8 manual pages and yours don't match, Robert. Sync points in my manual is on p. 352-353. Thanks for the info though.

This reminds me of how many functions in DP I don't use.
I'm The Mayor of Simpleton as far as some aspects of DP go I guess.

That's not true at all. You do a lot in DP, and I even have one of your CDs. What you do is top-shelf stuff. There are a lot of features I don't use in DP. I try to become familiar with them just so I can help people here with them, but I'd have to be the busiest musician on earth to use all the features in this thing.

There's no shame in asking basic questions about features in DP. The darned thing is a Swiss Army knife, and unless you're the whole Swiss Army, there are going to be things you don't know. The manual is very useful once you get to know the tricks for finding stuff. (don't forget the table of contents; I find more stuff there than in the index, it seems.) But it can be surprisingly vague about some things, and flat-out opaque about others. This forum is the "No-Shame-Zone."

Which reminds me.... those piano-roll looking things. Why do they make me angry?



Shoosh

[philbrown]

It's also used for setting sync points (pgs. 354-355) and pureDSP operations (pg. 857).

Hmm. My DP8 manual pages and yours don't match, Robert. Sync points in my manual is on p. 352-353. Thanks for the info though.

This reminds me of how many functions in DP I don't use.
I'm The Mayor of Simpleton as far as some aspects of DP go I guess.

That's not true at all. You do a lot in DP, and I even have one of your CDs. What you do is top-shelf stuff. There are a lot of features I don't use in DP. I try to become familiar with them just so I can help people here with them, but I'd have to be the busiest musician on earth to use all the features in this thing.

There's no shame in asking basic questions about features in DP. The darned thing is a Swiss Army knife, and unless you're the whole Swiss Army, there are going to be things you don't know. The manual is very useful once you get to know the tricks for finding stuff. (don't forget the table of contents; I find more stuff there than in the index, it seems.) But it can be surprisingly vague about some things, and flat-out opaque about others. This forum is the "No-Shame-Zone."

Which reminds me.... those piano-roll looking things. Why do they make me angry?



Shoosh

Shooshie, you are one great guy, in a lot of ways. I really appreciate that post more than you know. I often wrestle with "Is this question too dumb/basic to post?" and "Am I the only one who doesn't get this?" Also thanks for the other posts- everyone. Turns out there was a lot more to know about pop-editing than what I found on p 351.

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