AAF DP Conundrum
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- supersonic
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AAF DP Conundrum
Here is a typical view of what I get when I import an AAF file straight from avid.
Lots of chunks and a big mess . So what I usually do I open it in PT11 and re-export it as AAF. And that works every time.
So the big question is - what is wrong with the original AAF from Avid and what should I tell those good folks that send them to me the parameters should be so that DP understands the sequence properly.
Any ideas?
Lots of chunks and a big mess . So what I usually do I open it in PT11 and re-export it as AAF. And that works every time.
So the big question is - what is wrong with the original AAF from Avid and what should I tell those good folks that send them to me the parameters should be so that DP understands the sequence properly.
Any ideas?
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
What's wrong? Avid doesn't want it to work is what's wrong.supersonic wrote:
So the big question is - what is wrong with the original AAF from Avid and what should I tell those good folks that send them to me the parameters should be so that DP understands the sequence properly.
Any ideas?
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- supersonic
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
So the only way to do it is to go through PT?
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
I agree it's the only way it works correctly.supersonic wrote:So the only way to do it is to go through PT?
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
Ok
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
Ive posted a few times. I have had problems with opening a OMF/AAF file in DP for years. Starts to open and then hangs and crashes.Others have posted also about problems with DP. PT has been solid for me in that department.
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
OMF 1 or OMF 2?
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
Hey Mike , what,s the difference please. All I know is when I try and open a OMF embedded 24/96 or 48 or otherwise I have had problems.
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
The unreliable aaf and omf (1 or 2) importing have been deal breakers for me with DP for some years. If I could be sure that it could handle anything editors throw at me, as Pro Tools does, I would have jumped from ProTools to DP years ago. I really would like to kick the Avid dependence. I really wish MOTU could get a grip on this and also provide extensive import options for omfs and aafs giving you info on the file, allowing you to select what to import, etc.
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
There are standalone AAF and OMF2 converters. Nothing likes OMF1 which usually includes the word "unreliable" in the same sentence.
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
It is AAF I get. For now going through PT11 works but it is just one more step to do.
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
I've also been having the most difficult time trying to import Avid AAFs into DP. I've gotten mixed results; DP crash; Lots of chunks, many with no soundbites in them; total success.
I'm new to the post game so I'm trying to find the best workflow. I've used DP since v2.7 and love it. I'm not that experienced with PT but from the experience I've had, I'd much rather use DP.
I agree that the problem is that 'Avid doesn't want their AAFs to work in any DAW other than PT.' I'm gonna try the PT to DP route. But I have a feeling that I'll have to become more proficient in PT and bite the bullet for the time being. I wish MOTU would be more aggressive in fixing this issue.
Supersonic, do you mind me asking what setting you're using when you import the AAF into PT?
I'm new to the post game so I'm trying to find the best workflow. I've used DP since v2.7 and love it. I'm not that experienced with PT but from the experience I've had, I'd much rather use DP.
I agree that the problem is that 'Avid doesn't want their AAFs to work in any DAW other than PT.' I'm gonna try the PT to DP route. But I have a feeling that I'll have to become more proficient in PT and bite the bullet for the time being. I wish MOTU would be more aggressive in fixing this issue.
Supersonic, do you mind me asking what setting you're using when you import the AAF into PT?
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
You mean settings on DP side? There aren't any. Just slide the file onto chunk window. I don't know what they do on AVID side but I can check it out and experiment with different settings.
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
I do a lot of mixing and sound design on DP so I frequently need to be able to open Pro Tools sessions.
I always had a lot of struggle when trying to open OMF/AAF files in DP 7.24 and DP8 (in 32bit and 64bit modes). Both importing and opening the files made DP crash at startup in most of the cases.
The only proved way I discovered recently after thousands of possible combinations and attempts to open interchange files is to create a new project and then drag and drop the OMF/AAF file inside the Chunks window. Then you can delete the empty chunk that creates automatically with the new project, save the project and start working.
I don't know what is happening internally, but I'm happy I've found a way to avoid using Pro Tools for my daily work .
I always had a lot of struggle when trying to open OMF/AAF files in DP 7.24 and DP8 (in 32bit and 64bit modes). Both importing and opening the files made DP crash at startup in most of the cases.
The only proved way I discovered recently after thousands of possible combinations and attempts to open interchange files is to create a new project and then drag and drop the OMF/AAF file inside the Chunks window. Then you can delete the empty chunk that creates automatically with the new project, save the project and start working.
I don't know what is happening internally, but I'm happy I've found a way to avoid using Pro Tools for my daily work .
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Re: AAF DP Conundrum
Will try that
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