Lock tracks to each-other / stems

JSmith1234567 · Post by **JSmith1234567** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:17 pm

I would love to have a way to lock audio tracks to each-other and edit them en-masse.

When we are moving and editing stereo and surround stem-mixes to new picture-cuts, there is quite a bit of editing.

You don't want stuff getting out-of-phase if it is slightly nudged.

If you could just lock sets of tracks to other tracks and edit them together, music-editing for picture would be so much easier.

philbrown · Post by **philbrown** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:06 am

Track groups.

JSmith1234567 · Post by **JSmith1234567** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:27 am

Am I missing something with that?

Open the fit window, it doesn't lock tracks to each other in the timeline for editing.

Is there another way to do this?

Gravity Jim · Post by **Gravity Jim** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:00 pm

He means "look up 'track groups' in the manual."

You're not finding this feature because of terminology meltdown. You don't "lock" tracks together ("lock" refers to a whole other set of time controls), you "group" them (and then whatever you do to one track in the group gets done to all of them).

JSmith1234567 · Post by **JSmith1234567** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:01 pm

Hey man…I'll try this.

Just dragging a track in the editing window, after I grouped them, does not drag the other tracks.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong here?

bayswater · Post by **bayswater** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:23 pm

If I understand what you're trying to do, I don't think DP can do it. Just grouping tracks won't anyway. Maybe you can get something like it:
- extract a groove from one of the tracks and apply it to the others.
- build a tempo map from one track and quantize the others to the tempo that results. Alternatively, chop up the audio and quantize the soundbite sync points.
- if there aren't a lot of tracks to deal with, dump them all into a surround track and edit that

Logic X has a feature that defines one of the tracks as the timeline and controls playback of the others, but it doesn't seem to work that well. It gets closer to what I think you want to do, but DP can more or less so the same with the first two options above.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:53 pm

Selected soundbites should move around together and stay in perfect sync. When Grouped (and the proper grouping parameters are selected... like Edit mode), clicking on one soundbite in the group will select all others that start and end at the same time. If the soundbites do not all start and end at the exact same points, clicking on one will not select all the others in the group... shift-click.

Rick Cornish · Post by **Rick Cornish** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:04 am

Not sure if this helps you: In the Tracks Overview, clicking in the horizontal bar for the track folder selects all the tracks within that folder.

philbrown · Post by **philbrown** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:52 am

I must not be understanding the original question. As I understand your post, Track Groups will do exactly what you're asking. I use them all day along exactly as (I think) you're describing. DP8 manual p163-165, specifically Edit Groups on p165. If that doesn't answer your question, please post what it's not accomplishing that you want to do and maybe we can sort it out.

Gravity Jim · Post by **Gravity Jim** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:24 am

Yeah, if that's not working, they're not grouped. Double check your findings...

JSmith1234567 · Post by **JSmith1234567** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:33 pm

Maybe I'm on crack…but…

Select two audio tracks.

Group them as a new group, and make sure the group is enabled.

Open the edit window

Drag just one of the tracks in the editor.

Does the other track move too?

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:28 pm

JSmith1234567 wrote:Maybe I'm on crack…but…

Select two audio tracks.

Group them as a new group, and make sure the group is enabled.

Open the edit window

Drag just one of the tracks in the editor.

Does the other track move too?

Maybe the step you're missing is where you customize the group settings. "Selection" is one of the items you can check in the list. And yes... they all move together.

Here are the settings in the list:

You can see what the options are. To open this window, you must click on the group type in the right-hand column of the group window.

Shooshie

frankf · Post by **frankf** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:43 pm

the OP IMO is asking two different questions or asking one that is really two. maybe he can clarify which of the following he's asking about.
If DP has:
1. The ability to MOVE selected tracks with all their data to a different place in the track list. Multiple selected tracks cannot be moved simultaneously by dragging. There are Move commands that he can use, however. One is Move selected tracks to be together. Check the commands window.
2. The ability to Edit data in selected tracks simultaneously. This is done by grouping the tracks and checking the Editing box as others have described.

Frank Ferrucci

bayswater · Post by **bayswater** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:55 pm

I took the question to be about whether DP can edit multiple tracks in a manner that one might use to deal with drum tracks, "locking" them together to avoid phasing that might result from moving or stretching them.

frankf · Post by **frankf** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:00 pm

Me too, but he says "when MOVING and editing...' ( my caps)

Frank Ferrucci

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