Catch previous MIDI events in playback

[massimosammi]

Hello there,
is there a way to have DP refer to previous MIDI events for the playback of a passage?

These are the examples:
- I have a passage with pedal down (CC64 at 127) held over a series of notes, but I'd like to start the playback in the middle, still hearing the notes played with the pedal down;
- I have previous keyswitches and I'd like to start in the middle of the passage, without having to go back where the keyswitch occurs in order to have the articulation changed;
- I have several CCs (2,7,11) set at different values before the passage I'm playing and I'd like the playback to reflect that.

Thanks in advance for your help!

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Chase controllers

[stubbsonic]

Yup.

Setup Menu/Event Chasing...

You can specify which controllers to chase or chase all. If you turn on notes, it'll play any currently sustaining notes, even if the attack is before the playback wiper. Sometimes that's handy-- sometimes it is madness (i.e., when notes are loops).

[massimosammi]

Thanks! Will that work also for the keyswitches?

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Probably not.

[monkey man]

No, DP will not chase notes (your key switches), only controller (CC) data.

[bayswater]

Maybe DP9 will make it possible to put key switches in a dedicated lane that can be chased. Meanwhile, I wonder if we could use a Custom Console to translate a CC (e.g. using controllers 102-120) value to the corresponding Note On message. That would be chaseable.

[massimosammi]

Thanks a lot, that's really a great idea, with Vienna Instrument you can switch between cells with a CC, I'll definitely try that.


Best,
Massi


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[stubbsonic]

No, DP will not chase notes (your key switches), only controller (CC) data.

Not to split hairs, oh hairy one, but DP WILL chase notes. It is first in the list on the event chasing window. I'm almost positive that DP will only chase those notes that are currently sustaining on the wiper, not previous notes that are already finished (which would likely be the case for a keyswitch). In other words, it will chase the note-ons for any upcoming note-offs.

CRAZY IDEA:

What if you took all your key switches and dragged the duration of them to be as long as the sections of each articulation. That way when you hit play, DP would chase all notes (including that key-switch). You'd have that weird thing where when you hit play, any presently sustaining notes would trigger right at playback, but you'd get your switches. Might be more trouble than it is worth to set up, but it might be worth it for some situations.

[frankf]

No, DP will not chase notes (your key switches), only controller (CC) data.

CRAZY IDEA:

What if you took all your key switches and dragged the duration of them to be as long as the sections of each articulation. That way when you hit play, DP would chase all notes (including that key-switch). You'd have that weird thing where when you hit play, any presently sustaining notes would trigger right at playback, but you'd get your switches. Might be more trouble than it is worth to set up, but it might be worth it for some situations.

I've done this with success. Either one long note or one long note that I break into 8 bar, or whatever, segments.

[bayswater]

Using Change Duration > Move Releases to Closest Attack would make this easy to do on existing tracks.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Wow. Great idea. Who knew? I mean, besides stubby?

[monkey man]

That is good thinking, Stubbsy. Well done, mate. I've not been lucky enough to use key switching yet, but I get the concept.

Split hairs all you want, bro'. If you experience trapezoidal stiffness or pain, might I suggest you invest in a MonkeyLabs HairSplitter Pro™?. It operates just like a sausage machine - hair in one end, split hairs out of the other. Takes the angst out of the process. It's not on the market yet, but is scheduled for announcement in the MLI Product Update Q3 2015.

[stubbsonic]

Wow. Great idea. Who knew? I mean, besides stubby?

Looks like Frankf already had this one down. (Or is MLC being cheeky?)

...might I suggest you invest in a MonkeyLabs HairSplitter Pro™?. It operates just like a sausage machine - hair in one end, split hairs out of the other. Takes the angst out of the process. It's not on the market yet, but is scheduled for announcement in the MLI Product Update Q3 2015.

You could ship me a beta unit. If there's a bug in it, even a "kind of" bug, I'd find it and elaborate unnecessarily about it.

[frankf]

Wow. Great idea. Who knew? I mean, besides stubby?

Looks like Frankf already had this one down. (Or is MLC being cheeky?)

Not important, we're all sharing here. I'll add that these key switch notes are best on a separate track. They can make a mess of Quickscribe or other notation app.

MLC cheeky? Nevah