Disabling the option key / zoom short cut

[philbrown]

The zoom back, as was mentioned, is your friend. Every time I accidentally zoom in like this, my brain triggers my vocal chord to utter one of 2 4 letter words. No stopping this from happening.

So true!
And I've tried everything to undo-it-while-happening (clicking on the desktop etc) but once you hit the wrong key combo the damage is done. I used the Command-[ a couple of times this morning, now that I know, and was all w00t! It's the little things in life. Motunation rocks.

[Shooshie]

I find myself accidentally zooming by trying to nudge left/right with the arrow keys while holding Command to disable snap to grid- is there a way to do this? (temporarily disable the grid and nudge with the arrow keys?)

Thanks

COMMAND-ARROW KEYS are important timeline zooms. You could change either the command for this, or the command for nudging, but you can't disable the grid and nudge with this key-combination.

I've been zooming the timeline with COMMAND-ARROW for too long to change that, and I've been nudging for too long to change THAT, so I guess for me the best solution is just to turn off the grid, which is my default, anyway.

Shooshie

[Shooshie]

Meanwhile, if MOTU made the OPTION-CLICK zoom an optional preference, I'd be willing to bet that 99% of all users would turn it off!

Most annoying command EVER!

Shoosh

[Robert Randolph]

Meanwhile, if MOTU made the OPTION-CLICK zoom an optional preference, I'd be willing to bet that 99% of all users would turn it off!

Most annoying command EVER!

Shoosh

Probably my most used shortcut...

I am the 1%.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I thought cmd-f was the worst?

[bayswater]

Meanwhile, if MOTU made the OPTION-CLICK zoom an optional preference, I'd be willing to bet that 99% of all users would turn it off!

I'd turn it off. I use CMD-arrow for zoom. Better something that doesn't need a mouse.

[SMS]

I find myself accidentally zooming by trying to nudge left/right with the arrow keys while holding Command to disable snap to grid- is there a way to do this? (temporarily disable the grid and nudge with the arrow keys?)

Thanks

COMMAND-ARROW KEYS are important timeline zooms. You could change either the command for this, or the command for nudging, but you can't disable the grid and nudge with this key-combination.

I've been zooming the timeline with COMMAND-ARROW for too long to change that, and I've been nudging for too long to change THAT, so I guess for me the best solution is just to turn off the grid, which is my default, anyway.

Shooshie

I just tried disabling the zoom key bindings, and for some reason DP just won't recognize the temporary grid toggle when you nudge. I guess we just have to toggle the grid on/off instead of using the temporary toggle....

[Shooshie]

I thought cmd-f was the worst?

If you're talking about the View Filter command (OPTION-COMMAND-F on mine), I never accidentally hit that. But the OPTION-CLICK is something I hit all the time by accident, when I'm actually trying to duplicate something. I know to wait until I've already clicked before adding the option key, but sometimes I miss the target on the first click, and by then I've already got the Option key down, click again, and it balloons somewhere into next week, by which time I'm already doing what Frank does (uttering some choice words), and then I reach for Command-[ to go back to the previous zoom.



Shoosh

[philbrown]

I guess we're talking about at least 2 different scenarios. I make time selection edits hundreds of times a day, and since there is no quick way to jump from the Volume layer to the Soundbites layer ('cmon MOTU!), I often leave the Volume layer up and do time range selections by Control-Option clicking and dragging. Doing this so many times in a day occasionally I hit Option-Command by mistake and as soon as you click [EXPLETIVE] - there's no way out of a gigantic zoom happening no matter what you do, even clicking on the desktop.
Command-[ to the rescue.

[frankf]

I've tried to train myself to use the "I" I-beam tool. Hold down while dragging to make a time range selection, release when you're done. This avoids altogether using Carl/cmd-opt drag

[philbrown]

I've tried to train myself to use the "I" I-beam tool. Hold down while dragging to make a time range selection, release when you're done. This avoids altogether using Carl/cmd-opt drag

Thanks for the reminder- I forget about that one.
Almost always more than one way to get there in DP!

[Shooshie]

I've tried to train myself to use the "I" I-beam tool. Hold down while dragging to make a time range selection, release when you're done. This avoids altogether using Carl/cmd-opt drag

Thanks for the reminder- I forget about that one.
Almost always more than one way to get there in DP!

Except that the I-Beam stays within the track, while the Control-Option-Drag will cover multiple tracks. Or is it the other way around? No, I think I said it right. Anyway, there's a difference between the two.

I often hit the zoom by accident in that scenario, too. I'd give anything if we could turn off that option-click-zoom.

Shooshie

[stubbsonic]

I'm just adding my voice to the camp that doesn't like the Option key zoom short cut.

It has cause me to be much more slow and careful, but also the zoom back command is 2nd nature (just takes a hit on the flow).

But Shooshie is absolutely right, it would be good if it just went into the general commands bucket so it could be deactivated.

While we're at it, I also hate zooming along the wiper. I never use it, except by accident.

My mouse button-pressed scroll wheel does my zooming for me and it is elegant.

[frankf]

I've tried to train myself to use the "I" I-beam tool. Hold down while dragging to make a time range selection, release when you're done. This avoids altogether using Carl/cmd-opt drag

Thanks for the reminder- I forget about that one.
Almost always more than one way to get there in DP!

Except that the I-Beam stays within the track, while the Control-Option-Drag will cover multiple tracks. Or is it the other way around? No, I think I said it right. Anyway, there's a difference between the two.

I often hit the zoom by accident in that scenario, too. I'd give anything if we could turn off that option-click-zoom.

Shooshie

Not sure what you mean. The lasso changes to I-beam if you move curser over time line in SE and MIDI edit windows, and from pointer to I-beam in the TO. Drag to make time range selection for all tracks. No need even for the "I".. Or use I-beam tool on one track with "I" held down and then the command "grow selection to all tracks" or other grow selection commands. This is with cursor/pointer mode set to All Selections


Frank Ferrucci

[Shooshie]

Not sure what you mean. The lasso changes to I-beam if you move curser over time line in SE and MIDI edit windows, and from pointer to I-beam in the TO. Drag to make time range selection for all tracks. No need even for the "I".. Or use I-beam tool on one track with "I" held down and then the command "grow selection to all tracks" or other grow selection commands. This is with cursor/pointer mode set to All Selections


Frank Ferrucci

In the Sequence Editor, if you use the I-Beam, your selection is constrained to the track in which you're working.
If you use Control-Option-Drag, the lasso tool is like a time-range select for the track you're working in — just like the I-Beam — EXCEPT that if you move it down to other tracks it will pick them up, too. So, you've got three kinds of Range Selections possible in the Sequence Editor, using the mouse:

Sequence Editor:
1) Timeline: drag in the timeline to pick up a range in every track
2) Control-Option-Drag: picks up everything within a range within the track you're working in plus any adjacent tracks you drag over.
3) I-Beam: drag to pick up everything in a range within one track

Those give you three distinct ways of picking up selections in the Sequence Editor, with increasing levels of constraint as you go down the list.

As for the MIDI editor, I have never seen that Control-Option-Drag does anything differently. In fact, you'd have to invoke it after clicking, because Control brings up a contextual menu. That's ok. The Lasso is the default for the MIDI editor, anyway.

Shooshie