Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
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Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Hi,
I know that DP8 supports a great deal of audio interfaces. Just wondering if using a MOTU interface with DP8 would have any advantages over a third party interface (Apogee, RME, etc.) used with DP8?
Thanks!
I know that DP8 supports a great deal of audio interfaces. Just wondering if using a MOTU interface with DP8 would have any advantages over a third party interface (Apogee, RME, etc.) used with DP8?
Thanks!
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
None that I'm aware of. I've used DP with a MOTU interface, and with third party interfaces, and it's the same UX both ways... Transparent.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Sonically and compatibility-wise they should all work about the same.
Motu interfaces have CueMix, which does provide latency free monitoring, but I'm sure most interfaces can do that now. MOTU is awfully good about getting drivers out with new OS releases, if necessary. Some other companies aren't quite as on top of that. I'd check at least those two things before buying.
Everything goes through Apple's Audio/MIDI Setup these days, so there aren't usually any connectivity issues.
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Motu interfaces have CueMix, which does provide latency free monitoring, but I'm sure most interfaces can do that now. MOTU is awfully good about getting drivers out with new OS releases, if necessary. Some other companies aren't quite as on top of that. I'd check at least those two things before buying.
Everything goes through Apple's Audio/MIDI Setup these days, so there aren't usually any connectivity issues.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Just never buy M-Audio crap. Never!
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Thanks for clearing it up for me. I was actually trying to decide between the Apogee Duet for iPad & Mac or the MOTU Track 16. I am mostly concerned with stability and quality of converters. From what I have read, RME is the king of stability. But, the RME Babyface is a bit out of my price range.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
I use both a Motu 8 Pre and an Apogee Duet 2 with DP.. no problems. DP behaves exactly the same.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Isn't there a hardware play through capability with the MOTU gear?
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Yes, just like almost every mid/high-end modern interface.BKK-OZ wrote:Isn't there a hardware play through capability with the MOTU gear?
Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
NOT with the AVB line. You have to direct patch input to output or use the AVB app mixer. Chaps my ass.BKK-OZ wrote:Isn't there a hardware play through capability with the MOTU gear?
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Isn't that essentially what the older MOTU line does, but using Cuemix instead of the AVB mixer, and the Cuemix app instead of a web browser?EMRR wrote:NOT with the AVB line. You have to direct patch input to output or use the AVB app mixer. Chaps my ass.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
See B&H. Babyface 649. Duet 599. Big difference in function.deckard1 wrote: But, the RME Babyface is a bit out of my price range.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
From what I read about the AVB line, the latency is in the few millisecond range, so there's no need for hardware play through, or something like that. iI may not be remembering it right, so you might read that part again and see if it really is lacking anything. I just remember thinking that it sounded like the greatest thing since sliced soundbites.EMRR wrote:NOT with the AVB line. You have to direct patch input to output or use the AVB app mixer. Chaps my ass.BKK-OZ wrote:Isn't there a hardware play through capability with the MOTU gear?
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Well, I have a modern interface, and that option is greyed out in the DP menu. I recall (ages ago) reading in the DP manual that hardware play through in DP was only available with MOTU interfaces, but I am not 100% sure, so happy to be corrected.Robert Randolph wrote:Yes, just like almost every mid/high-end modern interface.BKK-OZ wrote:Isn't there a hardware play through capability with the MOTU gear?
It doesn't bother me, because I use a Mackie 1640i, and if I need to monitor something, I just do it through my desk, not through DP.
Cheers,
BK
…string theory says that all subatomic particles of the universe are nothing but musical notes. A, B-flat, C-sharp, correspond to electrons, neutrinos, quarks, and what have you. Therefore, physics is nothing but the laws of harmony of these strings. Chemistry is nothing but the melodies we can play on these strings. The universe is a symphony of strings and the mind of God… it is cosmic music resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace.
- M Kaku
BK
…string theory says that all subatomic particles of the universe are nothing but musical notes. A, B-flat, C-sharp, correspond to electrons, neutrinos, quarks, and what have you. Therefore, physics is nothing but the laws of harmony of these strings. Chemistry is nothing but the melodies we can play on these strings. The universe is a symphony of strings and the mind of God… it is cosmic music resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace.
- M Kaku
Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
The link between the use of motu hardware, DP, and direct hardware play through is that you have to use DHP to monitor via Cuemix.
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Re: Any advantages to using a MOTU interface with DP8?
Loss of 'direct hardware playthrough' kills the ability to do easy analog monitor mixing. If you use an analog console, you deal with latency or you run a completely separate AVB DAW mix for monitoring, and try to mirror the two mixes between tracking and playback. One should be able to use an analog mixer without latency, as the PCI line allowed in combination with 'direct hardware playthrough'.
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M1 Pro MBP for remotes and editing