Duplicate files on import
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Re: Duplicate files on import
Two more questions.
What file format are you exporting to?
How do you import? (drag, command-I, etc.)
Phil
What file format are you exporting to?
How do you import? (drag, command-I, etc.)
Phil
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Re: Duplicate files on import
I am recording in Broadcast Wav and exporting in Broadcast Wav. I use cmd F1 to import.Phil O wrote:Two more questions.
What file format are you exporting to?
How do you import? (drag, command-I, etc.)
Phil
Just noticed something, if I just drag the file from the tracks overview to a "New" folder (or drag from the audio folder to the "New" folder, when I import or drag to the tracks overview/sequence editor I just get the single file.
It's only when use the proper export function for the soundbites window that I get the duplicate on import or drag to tracks overview/sequence editor.
So it would appear that the export process is the source of the problem
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Re: Duplicate files on import
I can duplicate that. If I export a soundbite, when I pull the exported file back into DP, it shows one audio file with two regions. I tried it a few times with files of different names.Sean Kenny wrote:I am recording in Broadcast Wav and exporting in Broadcast Wav. I use cmd F1 to import.Phil O wrote:Two more questions.
What file format are you exporting to?
How do you import? (drag, command-I, etc.)
Phil
Just noticed something, if I just drag the file from the tracks overview to a "New" folder (or drag from the audio folder to the "New" folder, when I import or drag to the tracks overview/sequence editor I just get the single file.
It's only when use the proper export function for the soundbites window that I get the duplicate on import or drag to tracks overview/sequence editor.
So it would appear that the export process is the source of the problem
The first soundbite is named the same as the single region in the original audio file, and the second soundbite has the Finder name of the audio file, with ".2" appended to it. If you rinse and repeat, the next imported region will have a ".3" added.
So it might look like this is happening at export time. But if I open the exported files in DSP-Q, they only show the one region with the expected name. So it's more likely happening at import time. If that's so, perhaps this is a side effect of DP trying to make sure each soundbite has unique name?
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Re: Duplicate files on import
The durations are different though (see the original screen shot).bayswater wrote:But if I open the exported files in DSP-Q, they only show the one region with the expected name. So it's more likely happening at import time. If that's so, perhaps this is a side effect of DP trying to make sure each soundbite has unique name?
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Re: Duplicate files on import
It's a relief to know that's not just me then. Thanks for this.I can duplicate that. If I export a soundbite, when I pull the exported file back into DP, it shows one audio file with two regions. I tried it a few times with files of different names.
The first soundbite is named the same as the single region in the original audio file, and the second soundbite has the Finder name of the audio file, with ".2" appended to it. If you rinse and repeat, the next imported region will have a ".3" added.
So it might look like this is happening at export time. But if I open the exported files in DSP-Q, they only show the one region with the expected name. So it's more likely happening at import time. If that's so, perhaps this is a side effect of DP trying to make sure each soundbite has unique name?
Another instance this happens is when I export a vocal from a project, I consolidate the vocal by highlighting all the soundbites comprising the vocal and merging, then export the 'mg' merged file. When I import the same to a fresh project I get the merged file and also all the individual soundbite/regions that were used to create it.
It's a really annoying feature, although if it were an option I can see it being useful sometimes, it's just most of the time I don't want it
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Re: Duplicate files on import
In Sean's screenshot they are different. But in all my tests, they are the same. Weird.philbrown wrote:The durations are different though (see the original screen shot).bayswater wrote:But if I open the exported files in DSP-Q, they only show the one region with the expected name. So it's more likely happening at import time. If that's so, perhaps this is a side effect of DP trying to make sure each soundbite has unique name?
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Re: Duplicate files on import
Mine are different too, and it is weird!bayswater wrote:In Sean's screenshot they are different. But in all my tests, they are the same. Weird.philbrown wrote:The durations are different though (see the original screen shot).bayswater wrote:But if I open the exported files in DSP-Q, they only show the one region with the expected name. So it's more likely happening at import time. If that's so, perhaps this is a side effect of DP trying to make sure each soundbite has unique name?
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Re: Duplicate files on import
The merge function is simply creating a new region within the original audio file that defines the merged piece, not creating a whole new audio file. Bounce to disk will create a new file with one region.Sean Kenny wrote:When I import the same to a fresh project I get the merged file and also all the individual soundbite/regions that were used to create it.
It's a really annoying feature, although if it were an option I can see it being useful sometimes, it's just most of the time I don't want it
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Re: Duplicate files on import
Are you exporting from the TO or SE? Maybe the locators or sequence start and finish info, etc is being used in defining the regions. I exported from the SB window, and the soundbites are not being used anywhere in the project.philbrown wrote:Mine are different too, and it is weird!
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Re: Duplicate files on import
I have a procedure where I pull in the same biolerplate file into a job every week and the file I'm dragging in is 10+ years old so I can't really answer that in my case. It's only showing one region (the whole file) in DSP-Q though. I drag it into the SB window when I import it.bayswater wrote:Are you exporting from the TO or SE? Maybe the locators or sequence start and finish info, etc is being used in defining the regions. I exported from the SB window, and the soundbites are not being used anywhere in the project.philbrown wrote:Mine are different too, and it is weird!
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Re: Duplicate files on import
Here's another import I just did duplicates are exactly the same length. Files were created exported and then imported using the export/import feature in soundbites window
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Re: Duplicate files on import
I've tried a few different configurations and methods, and I can't get anything to show up with different lengths, start times, etc.
But as long as you are getting soundbites of different lengths, this does have consequences if you choose the wrong one to place in the project. If they are the same length, it just boils down to clutter and inconvenience.
Did you report this as a tech note?
But as long as you are getting soundbites of different lengths, this does have consequences if you choose the wrong one to place in the project. If they are the same length, it just boils down to clutter and inconvenience.
Did you report this as a tech note?
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Re: Duplicate files on import
That's what I'm seeing too, Sean. But the SB's are all the same length. I'm going to have to play with this a little more.bayswater wrote:The first soundbite is named the same as the single region in the original audio file, and the second soundbite has the Finder name of the audio file, with ".2" appended to it. If you rinse and repeat, the next imported region will have a ".3" added.
Phil
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Re: Duplicate files on import
This isn't happening on my system when I export to Core Audio Wave. I haven't tried other formats yet. It may be a broadcast wave issue. Dunno.
Phil
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Re: Duplicate files on import
I've got a feeling it is the broadcast wav format that is the issue.
Bit busy in the studio at the moment but as soon as I get the chance I'll dig a little more
Thanks again guys
Cheers
Sean
Bit busy in the studio at the moment but as soon as I get the chance I'll dig a little more
Thanks again guys
Cheers
Sean
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