My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
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- bralston
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My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Hey Guys. Here are the links to my 2 part video tutorial on using DP to enter your spotting notes for scoring film & creating markers...and then in part 2 of the tutorial, determining tempos, meter, etc...all ending with a cue demonstration.
There are a lot of great videos out there now showing one scoring a cue "live" with DP...but there is a lot of setup one has to do before you get to the point of entering notes and I wants to share my process here.
PART 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BYDz_UnMy0
PART 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pogtzz4Pw98
There are a lot of great videos out there now showing one scoring a cue "live" with DP...but there is a lot of setup one has to do before you get to the point of entering notes and I wants to share my process here.
PART 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BYDz_UnMy0
PART 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pogtzz4Pw98
Regards,
Brian Ralston
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Brian Ralston
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- cowtothesky
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Re: My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Thanks for posting these, Brian. It's always helpful to see how others work through these things. There definitely is a need for more videos on the setup process. It can get quite complex and I've had to learn most of it on my own. Great stuff! thanks
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Re: My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Many thanks for this.
- Dan Worley
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Re: My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Yes, many, many thanks. I learned a lot from this.
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- Shooshie
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Re: My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Interesting and educational.
Bryan, you said you get the occasional corrupted audio file or instrument file in chunks, which is why you save each cue out as its own file. If you could depend on not having corrupted sequences, would you still do that?
I used to get the same until I stopped using Kontakt. I haven't had a corrupted audio file or instrument since then, though I know it can happen anyway. Years ago I got a corrupted file using nothing but Ivory. (one chunk in the file, no more) That was a one-time thing, and rebuilding the instrument didn't fix it. It was a corrupted DP file. Never figured out exactly why. It was a bear to fix. But really, my chunk corruptions stopped when I dumped Kontakt. I still have the full version, and I keep it up to date, because sometimes you just have to use it. But I depend fully on VSL for strings, Wallander for winds, and a few other things for... well... other things. It's been great.
It just seems like all that saving files, waiting for each one to load when you have to go through them all and export cues, etc., is a lot of extra time when you could be using chunks. Now, if you send a DP file to someone else, and THAT'S where it goes corrupted, then that's a whole other ball game. I would certainly understand wanting to make that foolproof.
Just curious...
Shoosh
Bryan, you said you get the occasional corrupted audio file or instrument file in chunks, which is why you save each cue out as its own file. If you could depend on not having corrupted sequences, would you still do that?
I used to get the same until I stopped using Kontakt. I haven't had a corrupted audio file or instrument since then, though I know it can happen anyway. Years ago I got a corrupted file using nothing but Ivory. (one chunk in the file, no more) That was a one-time thing, and rebuilding the instrument didn't fix it. It was a corrupted DP file. Never figured out exactly why. It was a bear to fix. But really, my chunk corruptions stopped when I dumped Kontakt. I still have the full version, and I keep it up to date, because sometimes you just have to use it. But I depend fully on VSL for strings, Wallander for winds, and a few other things for... well... other things. It's been great.
It just seems like all that saving files, waiting for each one to load when you have to go through them all and export cues, etc., is a lot of extra time when you could be using chunks. Now, if you send a DP file to someone else, and THAT'S where it goes corrupted, then that's a whole other ball game. I would certainly understand wanting to make that foolproof.
Just curious...
Shoosh
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- bralston
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Re: My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Shooshie,
To answer your question...yes. Despite file corruption possibilities...I would still do it. On an organization level, I feel it is better to have it separate. I would not like my audio folder having all the audio tracks for ALL the cues. I want them separate. Also much better for saving and backing up project files.
I have felt that the file corruption in my cases (and in my friend's case)...were related to the audio file standard used. SDII files corrupted ALL the time. AIFF less...and Broadcast Wav MUCH LESS. SDII had to be finalized before the file could be used. If anything interrupted that process, the audio file got corrupted. BWav files do not have to be finalized and they are still viable. Thus you could be in the middle of a hour long live recording and if the computer crashed...the BWav file up to the point of the crash would still be viable.
I do not have loading issues with virtual instruments as all of my instruments are hosted in Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 outside of DP. Some on the same MacPro...some on slave MacMini's on the network. (Except a few occasional things that I may load unique to a cue in the V-Rack). I load up Vienna in the morning...and it sits there all day. All my project templates are the same and their routing just taps into VEPro for the instruments...so opening and closing project files are fairly quick, especially on my SSD drives. I can go from project file to project file in seconds. Similar to changing chunk files and sometimes actually faster.
To answer your question...yes. Despite file corruption possibilities...I would still do it. On an organization level, I feel it is better to have it separate. I would not like my audio folder having all the audio tracks for ALL the cues. I want them separate. Also much better for saving and backing up project files.
I have felt that the file corruption in my cases (and in my friend's case)...were related to the audio file standard used. SDII files corrupted ALL the time. AIFF less...and Broadcast Wav MUCH LESS. SDII had to be finalized before the file could be used. If anything interrupted that process, the audio file got corrupted. BWav files do not have to be finalized and they are still viable. Thus you could be in the middle of a hour long live recording and if the computer crashed...the BWav file up to the point of the crash would still be viable.
I do not have loading issues with virtual instruments as all of my instruments are hosted in Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 outside of DP. Some on the same MacPro...some on slave MacMini's on the network. (Except a few occasional things that I may load unique to a cue in the V-Rack). I load up Vienna in the morning...and it sits there all day. All my project templates are the same and their routing just taps into VEPro for the instruments...so opening and closing project files are fairly quick, especially on my SSD drives. I can go from project file to project file in seconds. Similar to changing chunk files and sometimes actually faster.
Regards,
Brian Ralston
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Brian Ralston
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- Shooshie
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Re: My 2 part video tutorial on Spotting film with DP8
Thanks, Bryan.
Shooshie
Shooshie
|l| OS X 10.12.6 |l| DP 10.0 |l| 2.4 GHz 12-Core MacPro Mid-2012 |l| 40GB RAM |l| Mach5.3 |l| Waves 9.x |l| Altiverb |l| Ivory 2 New York Steinway |l| Wallander WIVI 2.30 Winds, Brass, Saxes |l| Garritan Aria |l| VSL 5.3.1 and VSL Pro 2.3.1 |l| Yamaha WX-5 MIDI Wind Controller |l| Roland FC-300 |l|