setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
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setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
h'lo again, all...
I've begun building an orchestral/scoring template - my first
I'm going to have loadz - 25 or more - of Kontakt 5 instances that, if all were loaded, would exceed my MacPro's current RAM (16Gb). So I've come up with the following "work-around"...
I had noticed that V-racks can be turned off or on in the Chunks window. So I'm putting each K5 instance in to a V-rack. Once they'll all "V-racked", I'm going to the Chunks window and turning them off. Then I'm saving the template.
Then when I open a new project, the template loads, but with all instances/V-racks unloaded and I can go in to the chunks windows and select the instances/V-racks I'd like to use for that project. At least, that's the way I'm planning to do it now. I jsut wondered if any of you would offer suggestions for a better way to accomplish what I'm trying to do?
many thanks in advance.
((btw, note for MOTU - - it might be worth considering the following; upon opening any DP project that contains V-Racks/VI's, a window pops up saying "You have a number of V-Racks/VI's in this project. Please check the one's you would like to load now."))
I've begun building an orchestral/scoring template - my first
I'm going to have loadz - 25 or more - of Kontakt 5 instances that, if all were loaded, would exceed my MacPro's current RAM (16Gb). So I've come up with the following "work-around"...
I had noticed that V-racks can be turned off or on in the Chunks window. So I'm putting each K5 instance in to a V-rack. Once they'll all "V-racked", I'm going to the Chunks window and turning them off. Then I'm saving the template.
Then when I open a new project, the template loads, but with all instances/V-racks unloaded and I can go in to the chunks windows and select the instances/V-racks I'd like to use for that project. At least, that's the way I'm planning to do it now. I jsut wondered if any of you would offer suggestions for a better way to accomplish what I'm trying to do?
many thanks in advance.
((btw, note for MOTU - - it might be worth considering the following; upon opening any DP project that contains V-Racks/VI's, a window pops up saying "You have a number of V-Racks/VI's in this project. Please check the one's you would like to load now."))
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
What you described above was exactly how I used to do it when I had my reliable but awfully limited G5.
It works great, and you can really manage the computer's resources like that.
I still think of the Chunks window as the main control panel for DP. It's still the "center of operations" in my template
It works great, and you can really manage the computer's resources like that.
I still think of the Chunks window as the main control panel for DP. It's still the "center of operations" in my template
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
Another way might be to leave the VI as a track, with the track enable buttons turned off. When you want to use one, right click on the track and send it to a V-Rack.. but would that automatically turn it on?
OK, now I need to know.. gonna fire it up.
OK, now I need to know.. gonna fire it up.
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
You can do that, but it's more trouble than making a V-Rack in your template, with the VIs disabled.Killahurts wrote:Another way might be to leave the VI as a track, with the track enable buttons turned off. When you want to use one, right click on the track and send it to a V-Rack.. but would that automatically turn it on?
OK, now I need to know.. gonna fire it up.
By the way, you can turn a V-Rack off in the Chunks Window. I haven't tested this recently, but I'm pretty sure that if you turn off the V-Rack chunk, it disables the entire V-Rack. Also, you can have as many V-Racks as you want. Strings, Brass, Winds, Extra Winds, Extra Brass, Keyboards, Guitars... Whatever. (Or you can put it all in one V-Rack, of course.) They all show up in the mixing board as if they were one... plus you can choose which ones to display. I like having at least two, and sometimes more V-Racks.
[just tested it; yes, it does turn off when you disable the chunk. I thought so, but I hadn't done it in a while, and just wanted to make sure.]
Just sayin'... lots of options.
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
It does.Shooshie wrote: By the way, you can turn a V-Rack off in the Chunks Window. I haven't tested this recently, but I'm pretty sure that if you turn off the V-Rack chunk, it disables the entire V-Rack.
And it also releases any used CPU.
I love it.
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
FM, appreciate that! Just a question? If this is how you "used to do it", do you have a different way to do it now? (keep loads of VI's from loading, that is)?FMiguelez wrote:What you described above was exactly how I used to do it when I had my reliable but awfully limited G5....
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
Bad wording on my part.williemyers wrote:FM, appreciate that! Just a question? If this is how you "used to do it", do you have a different way to do it now? (keep loads of VI's from loading, that is)?FMiguelez wrote:What you described above was exactly how I used to do it when I had my reliable but awfully limited G5....
I still use and abuse that exact method with my new setup. It is vital for my template.
Actually, I can't see myself not using it. It's really awesome
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
You can see a pic of my Chunks window in the thread I link below, if you want to check it out.williemyers wrote:FM, appreciate that! Just a question? If this is how you "used to do it", do you have a different way to do it now? (keep loads of VI's from loading, that is)?
Today it's a little more consolidated and simplified (courtesy of the power of my new master computer I was able to consolidate and get rid of some chunks and V-racks), but in essence, it's the same (my template seems to never stop evolving).
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... ck#p480066
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Re: setting up VI's as V-Racks in a template?
FM, this is *extremely* helpful! Thanks so much for linking to itFMiguelez wrote: You can see a pic of my Chunks window in the thread I link below, if you want
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... ck#p480066
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