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New MOTU Hardware!

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Re: New MOTU Hardware!

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Wow. This looks amazing. Of course I just bought a new 828x :?
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Sweetwater already has them up on their site for pre-order:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/search. ... interfaces
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If these devices perform as advertised, this is a whole new paradigm shift in audio interfaces. These devices can be used for anything you can imagine doing with audio, scaling to any proportions. The features and specs are mind-boggling.

I'm probably set up for a while, but it's nice to know that the next time I need to buy audio interfaces, I won't be getting just an incremental update to stuff I've had for 20 years.

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I'm not convinced that I will need one when I upgrade but it's nice to know that they exist.
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Latency of less than a msec puts that issue away. I wonder if that applies when you use USB rather than TB.
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bayswater wrote:Latency of less than a msec puts that issue away. I wonder if that applies when you use USB rather than TB.
I wondered the same thing. I suspect that up to a point there is little difference, because all that the computer connection is doing is delivering the final signal to the tracks. At least up to about 8 tracks, the difference should be negligible. Beyond that is anyone's guess, but the workings of USB make me wonder if it can handle dozens of tracks without latency. It's less about conductivity than command structure. Thunderbolt was originally a protocol for light-pipe-type technology, so I'm assuming that its command structure is streamlined for rapid response to meta-data.

Unless a late career modification has me suddenly recording symphony orchestras or doing multiple-studio simulcasts, I doubt that I'll ever need the advanced features of these new boxes, but you never know. I've used advanced features on most of my MOTU interfaces, MIDI and Audio, because a need arose and the features were there. Had the features not been there, I doubt that I'd have perceived that need, and I wouldn't have benefited from them.

What I'm saying is that because the features are there and you know it, it's easy to imagine applying them to solutions for scenarios you encounter. Your creativity is expanded by these potential solutions. Because they are there, they will be used. Those who use them will initially be labeled genius, simply because they put MOTU's boxes fully to work. As time goes on the bar will be raised, and everyone will be using them. So, it's no problem if we don't see ourselves using them right now. Time changes things.
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Shooshie wrote:If these devices perform as advertised, this is a whole new paradigm shift in audio interfaces. These devices can be used for anything you can imagine doing with audio, scaling to any proportions. The features and specs are mind-boggling.
Mark called it almost four years ago: http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 97#p371140

Mind boggling is right. Wow! The networking itself is phenomenal. Audio wise, we can easily network between rooms and buildings without it costing an arm and a leg. This is so awesome! I am disappointed that the hubs are $295. That seems somewhat excessive to me, but I see quite a few 8M models in my future.

Very exciting stuff.
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First glance looks great.
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They're also shipping AudioDesk 4 along with them. It will be interesting to see where they went with that - it wasn't updated with the release of DP8. AudioDesk is a good choice for live recording, lean and efficient.
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NazRat wrote:They're also shipping AudioDesk 4 along with them. It will be interesting to see where they went with that - it wasn't updated with the release of DP8. AudioDesk is a good choice for live recording, lean and efficient.
Yes, that will be interesting. Will it be a paid upgrade like AD2 or free like AD3 (for AD2 owners)?

A long time ago, I would track in AudioDesk, transfer the project to a desktop and open in DP. I can see how, for some, that approach could still be useful.
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NazRat wrote:They're also shipping AudioDesk 4 along with them. It will be interesting to see where they went with that - it wasn't updated with the release of DP8. AudioDesk is a good choice for live recording, lean and efficient.
Where did you find this information? I can't find anything online about AudioDesk 4 even existing.

Edit: I take that back, your post is the only relevant thing that shows up when I search google for "AudioDesk 4"

Edit 2: Manual searching wins! I found what google did not. It is listed under 'included software' here: http://www.motu.com/products/avb/8m/specs.html
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Wow, I wonder if the onboard DSP effects are improved, as well as the A/D/A converters. Looking forward to the reviews.

I've been using the Apollo with the UAD Neve preamp (and the Unison technology), and have all my nice preamps for sale now.
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bayswater wrote:Latency of less than a msec puts that issue away. I wonder if that applies when you use USB rather than TB.
i believe it applies to TB, based on how it's described on Sweetwater's site.
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jlaudon wrote:Wow, I wonder if the onboard DSP effects are improved, as well as the A/D/A converters.
ESS Sabre32 Ultra conversion. Same as Apogee Symphony, but the analog stages are also critical. MOTU claims 123 dB A-weighted dynamic range on outputs, whereas Apogee says Symphony scores 129 db on the same scale. Both figures are crazy good.

From Apogee's website:
While ESS Sabre32 DAC has been widely recognized and employed in the audiophile community as the next step in converter technology, Apogee is one of the first pro audio manufacturers to employ this DAC in an interface designed for audio and video professionals. ESS Sabre32 DAC technology is included in Duet 2, Duet for iPad & Mac, Quartet and Symphony I/O.

The benefits of the ESS DAC are seen in the astonishingly low THD+N specification and large dynamic range, the preservation of audio performance at any attenuation level (Symphony I/O), and the audio fidelity and transparency for which Apogee is renowned.
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