Yosemite in the fall

apanacci · Post by **apanacci** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:25 pm

God help us, Mac new system , here we go again !

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:30 pm

No religion please.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:04 am

Not only that; Objective C is being replaced by Swift (new language) as the Apple choice for iOS and Mac programming.

My source (my son) says it's a better language incorporating his favorite aspects of many languages, but it's not something that people are going to learn overnight.

For now it appears that Apple will continue to support Objective C (Cocoa environment). One wonders if there will come a time when Cocoa will be to Swift as Carbon was to Cocoa. Phased out, that is. Doesn't seem likely, since the reason for Carbon becoming fossilized was the move to 64 bits, and Steve's decision to abandon the Carbon layer. But who'd have thought that would happen? In any case, I'm getting years ahead of the worry game here. Swift and Objective C will co-exist for the foreseeable future, and Swift will bring more subtlety of programming.

One cute aspect of Swift is that it supports Unicode, so you can use emoji in your code. You think, "why would anyone want to?" But the glee that bored programmers will attain guarantees that 4 out of 5 apps have at least one variable or class name that is the steaming pile of poop (yes, that's one of the emoji characters).

Shoosh

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:53 am

Shooshie wrote:But the glee that bored programmers will attain guarantees that 4 out of 5 apps have at least one variable or class name that is the steaming pile of poop (yes, that's one of the emoji characters).

I say our friends in Cambridge, MA use that for anything having to do with Avid support.

wylie1 · Post by **wylie1** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:06 pm

Change is coming fast but the years seam to be going by faster as well

This looks like more of a change for iOS devices than OSX and with Swift being able to improve the graphic rendering x10 that's pretty impressive considering its free and you don't have to go out and buy a new device.

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:59 pm

It may be trivial but I really don't like the look of the flat Dock and the flat icons. And I don't have an iPhone so the inter device connectivity means nothing to me. I have however stayed in a cabin in Yosemite and I saw some of the filming for one of the Star Trek movies being done there so I guess I am entitled to a free update for that reason alone. I never surfed at Mavericks though......

mikehalloran · Post by **mikehalloran** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:29 pm

I really don't like the look of the flat Dock and the flat icons.

That's a big club of which I am a member.

And I don't have an iPhone so the inter device connectivity means nothing to me.

Ahhhh... that. I can hardly live without it. iPhone often takes the place of my laptop in the field.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:03 pm

mikehalloran wrote:
I really don't like the look of the flat Dock and the flat icons.
That's a big club of which I am a member.

I guess I belong to the other club, then. I liked the flat icons and the "frosted glass" look of the dock. Ahhhh, subjectivity!

mikehalloran · Post by **mikehalloran** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:17 pm

I sometimes have trouble telling the difference among the various icons in iOS 7. There. I said it.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:28 pm

Mike-- Valid point. Hopefully they'll take all these things into consideration. I just discovered that I can force Mavericks into grayscale. Nostalgic!

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:43 am

mikehalloran wrote:
And I don't have an iPhone so the inter device connectivity means nothing to me.
Ahhhh... that. I can hardly live without it. iPhone often takes the place of my laptop in the field.

I have gone down the Samsung route for the phone and agree mobiles are essential for the lives we now lead - it was a much better deal for a better device and cheaper in the long run than an iPhone contract . The connectivity with the Mac is not a real issue for me - I can get all my e-mail and contacts shared so not really missing anything as I don't need to use an app on the phone when I am on my computer anyway. And what with Dropbox and Bluetooth transferring files is a breeze. But I do like a 3D icon I am afraid!

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:55 pm

mikehalloran wrote:I sometimes have trouble telling the difference among the various icons in iOS 7. There. I said it.

Same here. I have to read them now. Before, they had some personality which enabled me to identify them at a glance.

The problem, I think, is my eyesight. With strong glasses I can identify them fairly quickly (still not like before), but if I have the wrong focal-length glasses, I can't identify them without making a pinhole between my fingers and viewing them through it.

The extra shadows and the subtle colors, shading, realism, etc., simply made them easier to see.

Shooshie

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:17 pm

Well, I had problems until I dispensed with the reading glasses. I now wear a contact lens (for distance) in my left I and don't have a lens in my right. Some people's brains apparently can handle this and acclimate. I'm lucky to be one of them. It also helps playing guitar because the strings and fretboard were blurry, however, really I'm working on NOT being one of those guys that has to stare down at it while playing!

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:26 pm

The multi-device inter-operability is something I've dreamed of for years and years. I can't tell you how much I depend on that, now. Even books I'm reading: I open them in any device, and they go to the page I'm currently reading! Man, when I'm waiting in a line or something, it's great to be able to just pull up any book I want and continue reading. Then next time I'm on my iPad (where I do most of my "on-device" reading) it opens to where I left it on my iPhone.

Needless to say, the ability to enter a new contact in my phone and know it's going to be in my computer when I get home is just priceless. I've come to depend on this now in quite a few apps. This is what computing is all about!

And one thing that people don't discuss much is Siri. I use Siri very productively, asking her to convert currency, lengths, weights; or the capitol of Ohio, or the birthdate of Einstein, or to dial anyone's phone number, hands-free. She opens apps, looks up addresses, finds many things on the map, sets alarms, locates nearby Starbucks, and performs a lot of menial tasks. Plus, she's always got a cute comeback for marriage proposals, and so forth, if you're bored or just desperate for rejection.

Siri is the fulfillment of another long-time computing dream: computers that actually listen to us and do what we ask, without complaint! You have to learn the best way to ask her certain things, but she's surprisingly intuitive. I can't believe how much they've put into her comprehension.

If you're happy just opening Digital Performer, doing your job, and getting offline as quickly as possible, there's nothing wrong with that. But these are amazingly powerful machines, and I completely welcome harnessing them to be more than just a dumb terminal. Super-networking, interoperability, and voice comprehension are a few areas that have just been begging for development, and I'm glad to have them.

Still, I'm disappointed that we have to go through these phases, like some kind of withholding or denial, where one person's aesthetic sense overrides your own and prevents you from having the chamfered and shaded graphics that ease viewing and icon recognition.

Shooshie

Dan Worley · Post by **Dan Worley** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:31 pm

Shooshie wrote:
mikehalloran wrote:I sometimes have trouble telling the difference among the various icons in iOS 7. There. I said it.
Same here. I have to read them now. Before, they had some personality which enabled me to identify them at a glance.

The problem, I think, is my eyesight. With strong glasses I can identify them fairly quickly (still not like before), but if I have the wrong focal-length glasses, I can't identify them without making a pinhole between my fingers and viewing them through it.

The extra shadows and the subtle colors, shading, realism, etc., simply made them easier to see.

Shooshie

Visually, iOS7 is a horrible design.

I work with people with visual impairments. They got along great with iOS6, but iOS7 ruined the iPhone and iPad experience for many of them. It made seeing things on the screen much much more difficult, and impossible for some.

The average user won't know what a big deal and PITA this has been. I'm so hoping that iOS8 will fix a lot of these issues, but I have my doubts.

Yosemite, on the other hand, looks like a huge improvement over Mavericks to me. Mavericks is DP6. Yosemite is DP8.

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