Finding out what causes swapping
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Finding out what causes swapping
Is swapping logged ?
And if, where ?
I suspect DP longtime - recording 32 tracks with a total of 2GB ram
Thank you for hints
and
best regards
Klaus
And if, where ?
I suspect DP longtime - recording 32 tracks with a total of 2GB ram
Thank you for hints
and
best regards
Klaus
Re: Finding out what causes swapping
Activity Monitor shows swaps measured in GB. It used to also show the number of pages swapped, but not any more.
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
Thanks, I would like to see what exactly caused swapping - after a shut down
( ... the next day after the gig )
Klaus
( ... the next day after the gig )
Klaus
Re: Finding out what causes swapping
With 2G of RAM and 10.6 or later, everything will cause swapping. IIRC you needed at least 8G to avoid it completely.
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
24 ch recording and mixing with Cuemix FX / DP *never ever* caused swapping, 3h in a row...
Now I record 32 ch from the X32Core's FW card ( with DP ), and I'd like to know if its DP
or the X32Core remote software...that is causing swapping
Klaus
Now I record 32 ch from the X32Core's FW card ( with DP ), and I'd like to know if its DP
or the X32Core remote software...that is causing swapping
Klaus
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
2 GBs of RAM is practically nothing. That's probably what the OS needs to itself, at the bare minimum.
You need much more RAM!
You need much more RAM!
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
1.4 GB free
all apps I need running
???
I don't do VIs...
It's live recording and mixing
???
Now please some spezi tell me how I can find out afterwards what caused swapping
Klaus
all apps I need running
???
I don't do VIs...
It's live recording and mixing
???
Now please some spezi tell me how I can find out afterwards what caused swapping
Klaus
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
I just don't know of any software that will report the process that caused a memory page swap. That doesn't mean there's not one, but I've used a number of them, and not a one contained that information. Currently I use MenuMeters, which shows you all that's going on in real time up in your menu bar. But it doesn't label the process whose access required swapping out a page in RAM.
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
ok
thanks guys
and sorry for the waste of time
best
Klaus
thanks guys
and sorry for the waste of time
best
Klaus
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
Never a waste of time when the intent is genuine!Klaus wrote:ok
thanks guys
and sorry for the waste of time
best
Klaus
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
I don't think there is an answer to your question. Swapping is done by the OS and is not specific to an application. It just swaps stuff out of RAM onto the disk, and the pages swapped out at any one time might contain data from many apps and OS elements.
Also, note that swapping happens before the RAM is actually all used up, so seeing that you are using less than 2G at any one time, doesn't mean you shouldn't expect swapping.
Also, note that swapping happens before the RAM is actually all used up, so seeing that you are using less than 2G at any one time, doesn't mean you shouldn't expect swapping.
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Re: Finding out what causes swapping
You can see it in Console - if you want to go there.
Mavericks handles memory differently than other OS and does less swapping than was done before.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5963087
Mavericks handles memory differently than other OS and does less swapping than was done before.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5963087
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