EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
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EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
I got the email too. It looks absolutely amazing!
I can see that lots of R&D hours went into this new product. Can't wait to try it.
I wonder, though, what will happen to the flagship Superior Drummer 2? Will it also see such an overhaul, or will this be pretty much the new main app for Toontrack?
I can see that lots of R&D hours went into this new product. Can't wait to try it.
I wonder, though, what will happen to the flagship Superior Drummer 2? Will it also see such an overhaul, or will this be pretty much the new main app for Toontrack?
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
That's what I was wondering, FM. Some of those features would be useful incorporated into SD2.FMiguelez wrote:I got the email too. It looks absolutely amazing!
I can see that lots of R&D hours went into this new product. Can't wait to try it.
I wonder, though, what will happen to the flagship Superior Drummer 2? Will it also see such an overhaul, or will this be pretty much the new main app for Toontrack?
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
I use Superior Drummer but am also upgrading to EZ Drummer 2 - some of the new features will no doubt pass on to an upgrade of Superior Drummer although much of the EZ Drummer 2 new features do make it an attractive replacement - for now.
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
It looks pretty cool. I can upgrade for $99. To me it's going to boil down to the sound of the kits available. I was never blown away by the kits for EZ Drummer "Classic." I do like the song construction features, etc. Frankly... it just occurred to me that they COULD take that section and split it off into a better EZ Player Pro maybe? I haven't used that in a while.
All in all, the song construction stuff looks good... it's just about the sounds.
Also coming soon is Addictive Drums 2, and in a lot of ways I preferred their kits, although they used non-standard MIDI mapping as I recall?
All in all, the song construction stuff looks good... it's just about the sounds.
Also coming soon is Addictive Drums 2, and in a lot of ways I preferred their kits, although they used non-standard MIDI mapping as I recall?
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
I have a few EZX's - the Drumkit From Hell and the new Rock! kits I think are very good - but the standard ones that are included are only adequate - but the EZX's make the difference but of course cost extra. And the Grooves are brilliant with so many options. One good thing about Superior Drummer is you can choose to use single kit pieces of a groove - I don't think this is possible in EZ Drummer 2. I do find that function very useful - just dragging say the Hi Hat across to DP of a groove.James Steele wrote:It looks pretty cool. I can upgrade for $99. To me it's going to boil down to the sound of the kits available. I was never blown away by the kits for EZ Drummer "Classic." I do like the song construction features, etc. Frankly... it just occurred to me that they COULD take that section and split it off into a better EZ Player Pro maybe? I haven't used that in a while.
All in all, the song construction stuff looks good... it's just about the sounds.
Also coming soon is Addictive Drums 2, and in a lot of ways I preferred their kits, although they used non-standard MIDI mapping as I recall?
I have used Addictive Drums and liked it although I am not sure the MIDI mapping is standard in EZ Drummer either. In terms of features EZ Drummer 2 now leaps past Addictive Drums and may replace Superior Drummer - unless of course they upgrade that too.
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
Yeah... I have Superior Drummer as well. I just like a highly processed 80's type drum kit, etc. I should try some of those EZX's as the kits that came with EZ Drummer didn't thrill me to say the least.Guitar Gaz wrote:I have a few EZX's - the Drumkit From Hell and the new Rock! kits I think are very good - but the standard ones that are included are only adequate - but the EZX's make the difference but of course cost extra. And the Grooves are brilliant with so many options. One good thing about Superior Drummer is you can choose to use single kit pieces of a groove - I don't think this is possible in EZ Drummer 2. I do find that function very useful - just dragging say the Hi Hat across to DP of a groove.
Yep... although there is an Addictive Drums 2 in the works so we'll see if XLN keeps up. I also have the Slate Drums as well and like that. I have the less expensive option. Also, waiting in the wings is DrumCore4 which is coming soon. I really liked DrumCore3... especially the GP Sparkle kits.I have used Addictive Drums and liked it although I am not sure the MIDI mapping is standard in EZ Drummer either. In terms of features EZ Drummer 2 now leaps past Addictive Drums and may replace Superior Drummer - unless of course they upgrade that too.
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
I find EZdrummer is very handy at helping to find drum grooves, patterns, fills, etc. and creating your tracks.
But, I too, am not in love with the sounds.
I end up using other drum software for finishing things off. You might have to mess around with a little bit of note mapping depending on what MIDI library you're working with, and I like to use some GrooveMonkee files that can also be used with EZdrummer.
Listen to EZdrummer, then go out to hear a real band with a real drummer just to confirm what real drums are supposed to sound like.
But, it is a very handy piece of software and a fantastic deal.
But, I too, am not in love with the sounds.
I end up using other drum software for finishing things off. You might have to mess around with a little bit of note mapping depending on what MIDI library you're working with, and I like to use some GrooveMonkee files that can also be used with EZdrummer.
Listen to EZdrummer, then go out to hear a real band with a real drummer just to confirm what real drums are supposed to sound like.
But, it is a very handy piece of software and a fantastic deal.
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James, you really should jump on the Metal Machine and Rock Solid EZXs, think you'd love the kits, especially the kicks and snares of the MM and toms of Rock Solid. I'm not a metal guy, but I also really like Metal Beats MIDI ezx and Drum Riffs. Some sick stuff but the simpler beats have great attitude and you could build some nice tracks off them.James Steele wrote: Yeah... I have Superior Drummer as well. I just like a highly processed 80's type drum kit, etc. I should try some of those EZX's as the kits that came with EZ Drummer didn't thrill me to say the least.
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
The EZX's have something for everyone - I am sure that the 80's processed sound can be found in one of them - Rock! for example has an 80's rock kit with presets for heavy compression - but the Metal and Rock Solid have some ggod ones too. And with EZ Drummer 2 it will be easier to use drums from different kits mixed and matched - Superior Drummer was fiddly with X drums doing the same. I think there are also more processing options so would be surprised if you could not make something that fits your preference.
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
Who knows FM?FMiguelez wrote:I wonder, though, what will happen to the flagship Superior Drummer 2? Will it also see such an overhaul, or will this be pretty much the new main app for Toontrack?
On their official forum they say that there are "there are no imminent plans for the next iteration of Superior, no." Given the amount of emails I've received from them about EZ2, I get the feeling we're being steered that direction.
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
That does look like we're being stirred to that direction. How Apple of them!
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Re: EZ Drummer 2 coming soon
I've had EZDrummer and numerous EZXs for years, but finally broke down and picked up Superior 2 a few weeks ago, mainly because I wanted to be able to mix and match snares, toms, etc. from different kits. Now here comes EZDrummer 2, with that very feature I've wanted all these years (and more)! Oh well, now I guess I've got to buy that too!
I actually like the basic EZDrummer kit, and ended up using it a lot, even though I have many expansions. It just seems to fit in a mix most of the time. But BFD 2's stock kits definitely offered more (particularly liked the Bonham Vistalite and the Ringo kits). Haven't tried BFD 3 yet. Another thing I guess I'll have to have!
I agree with James, that the bottomline is the quality of the kits. Don't know about EZD 2 yet, but up till now, the EZXs were essential, if you really wanted to get the full EZDrummer experience.
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I actually like the basic EZDrummer kit, and ended up using it a lot, even though I have many expansions. It just seems to fit in a mix most of the time. But BFD 2's stock kits definitely offered more (particularly liked the Bonham Vistalite and the Ringo kits). Haven't tried BFD 3 yet. Another thing I guess I'll have to have!
I agree with James, that the bottomline is the quality of the kits. Don't know about EZD 2 yet, but up till now, the EZXs were essential, if you really wanted to get the full EZDrummer experience.
Babz
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I've been using other kits like BFD, but haven't used either EZDrummer or SuperiorDrummer. Can someone help me understand the differences between the EZD-2 version and SD-2? I just got a video from Sweetwater that shows off all the cool features of EZD-2 and am wondering how that compares to SD-2. It looks like SD-2 has more kit piece options, but does it also have all the song-building and groove functions that EZD-2 has? Thanks so much for any insight!
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