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Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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Does anyone know if there is a simple way to choose the other option when DP says something like, "Some of the timestamps are before the sequence.......", and then it gives you a CANCEL button which is already selected in blue, and an OK button. If you just hit enter, it chooses cancel obviously. Isn't there some sort of key command to choose the OK option? I like to work fast and avoid mousing around whenever possible. This has been getting under my skin this morning!

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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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I don't know. Have you tried the Tab key or (Shift Tab) or the Arrow keys? Those are the only ones I think would have a chance.
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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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Hey Tripi. It used to work before maybe DP8. We used to use 'command O' to OK the flush undo history all the time. But the whole OSX OK tab etc inside DP got broken sometime ago. It won't work on any of our rigs now, regardless of OSX version.

Anyone know how to bring it back to life???
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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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Spacebar is Apple's way of selecting an outlined option that is not the highlighted option. I don't think that works much in DP, if at all. I just tried it for quitting, when it asks if you want to save, and it didn't work.

Nor did the first letter (D for Don't Save), which I'm pretty sure USED to work.

"Escape" still cancels, thank goodness. It might be a good thing if we asked MOTU to bring back Apple functionality in dialogs. (Spacebar for bold-outlined 2nd options)
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If by chance they changed things to be consistent with the PC in their cross platform effort, try using the option key with the first letter in the dialog - i.e. option O for OK. In DP on the PC you can use the alt plus letter combo to respond in dialog boxes. I don't have my Mac handy to try.
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Spacebar is already toggling play/pause in DP. Could be confusing while in action.
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NazRat said: "i.e. option O for OK"

Thats the type of thing that is now broken. boohoo
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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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COMMAND-D still works for "Don't Save" in DP8 (but not in other Mac OS applications).

Funnily enough, Apple decided that COMMAND-D would now jump you to the desktop folder when saving. And COMMAND-DELETE must now be used for "Don't Save". My only gripe with that is that I have to take my RH off the mouse or move my LH over to the right side of the keyboard to execute it. Not a big deal.

It would have been good if Apple had created an OS-wide convention for keyboard execution of multiple button choices in a pop-up dialog. I may send a feedback suggestion.

Having TAB basically move which button is highlighted, and return execute the highlighted button seems intuitive enough. Alternatively, even having a simple number before each button and then using OPTION-# to execute would also work.
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Maybe in a world where touch screen apps are taking over this doesn't matter much. But, I'm a big fan of speeding up my workflow wherever possible. I hate the OS or DP questioning my decisions. :)
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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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I still don't get it... This is supposed to be a system-wide shortcut, yes?

So when you have system dialogs involving 3 choices, you Ok (or whatever it's highlighted) with Enter, you cancel with Esc, and you choose the 3rd option with... what?

I'd really like to know this shortcut as well...
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Maybe the reason that things have changed is because Apple has given us new ways to do these things. If you check the System Preferences/Keyboard/Shortcuts/ you will see at the bottom, "Full Keyboard Access" where you can set it to accept a Tab to move the keyboard focus between either text boxes and lists, or all controls (depending on your settings).

There are other accessibility functions, too, but I won't try to describe them all here.

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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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Tab was the standard key for moving between fields in a dialog box when there were more than two. But thinking back to V5, DP was never the most compliant with Apple conventions.
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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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Shooshie, as usual, you have the answer.

Open preferences, choose KEYBOARD, then KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS. At the bottom is Full Keyboard Access option. Change it to ALL CONTROLS. Now the tab button will select the "other option", and then space confirms. Works just fine in DP8.

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Shooshie wrote:Maybe the reason that things have changed is because Apple has given us new ways to do these things. If you check the System Preferences/Keyboard/Shortcuts/ you will see at the bottom, "Full Keyboard Access" where you can set it to accept a Tab to move the keyboard focus between either text boxes and lists, or all controls (depending on your settings).

There are other accessibility functions, too, but I won't try to describe them all here.

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Re: Selecting the "other" option in DP's confirmation boxes

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Is this where it gets messy? I.e., if you turn on those system short-cuts, do you then end up having some conflicts with DP's commands?

The other thing is I'm a little concerned that I'll end up cutting in to my available key-combos for QuicKeys which I am expecting I'll use more and more.


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