Sound Soap 3 rises from the ashes of BIAS

apanacci · Post by **apanacci** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:27 am

Hey guys, anyone out there that got a notice from Steve Berkley,s new company for SoundSoap 3 ? I emailed them and asked for a free upgrade because Steve had my money from Peak Multi track that never was. Funny, no response.

Armageddon · Post by **Armageddon** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:52 pm

Wasn't Deck pretty much the multi-track version of Peak?

billf · Post by **billf** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:02 pm

I received a notice. But right now I'm only interested in his new company if he manages to get Peak back on the market, which doesn't look like it is in the cards unfortunately.

guitardood · Post by **guitardood** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:30 pm

After getting screwed on SoundSoap2, I wouldn't use their products ever again.

Guitar Gaz · Post by **Guitar Gaz** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:54 am

Guys - Peak 7 still works on Mavericks 10.9 - so whether people are angry with Bias for the demise, certainly this piece of software has worked fine through Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion and now Mavericks. So in a sense there is at least some life still in Bias products many years after the demise of the company. Just thought people would find that interesting......

mikehalloran · Post by **mikehalloran** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:44 am

guitardood wrote:After getting screwed on SoundSoap2, I wouldn't use their products ever again.

And Peak 3 and Peak 4 and Peak 5.

I have RX now and no longer see the need for Sound Soap.

Armageddon · Post by **Armageddon** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:10 am

RX is pretty awesome, same with any of the Waves "X" plugs (although you have to stack those to really utilize them well). As for Peak, I happily abandoned it for Audiofile Engineering's Wave Editor (now, "Triumph"), which did significantly more for about 1/6th the price, despite still having a slightly wonky interface that takes some getting used to. That all being said, I'm not gonna dance on BIAS's grave, since Peak served me well for a long time. It was a great program that sort of lost its way when OS X came along.

guitardood · Post by **guitardood** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:23 am

mikehalloran wrote:
guitardood wrote:After getting screwed on SoundSoap2, I wouldn't use their products ever again.
And Peak 3 and Peak 4 and Peak 5.

I have RX now and no longer see the need for Sound Soap.

Agreed!

I'm not angry at BIAS' demise as much as their maintaining of a server to allow activation and not take into account users whose system crashed and couldn't 'unauthorize' in order to reauthorize my paid-for software and basically left me with unusable abandon-ware while all of the 'warez' guys were still able to use the product with impunity. IMHO, if they were going to maintain the authorization server, it should have authorized every time and ignored previous authorization status.

Besides being a musician, I'm also a programmer and am very interested in getting paid for my works in both areas. That being said, there has to be a better copy-protection model which doesn't punish the people who've actually plunked down the dough for a product, such as was unfortunately utilized by BIAS.

For those whose usage of their software has been unencumbered, more power to you. For me, if they were to come out with the "Click Here To Create #1 Hit" software, they wouldn't get a single penny from me.

mhschmieder · Post by **mhschmieder** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:19 pm

I downloaded a trial of WaveLab 8 this weekend since I can't use Peak with 64-bit plugs and thus no longer find it very useful. WaveLab 8 is a huge improvement over the disastrous WaveLab 7, but I haven't gotten my head wrapped around it yet. Unfortunately I think the cross-grade period has long expired, but maybe I'll start with Elements just so I don't have to move my mastering work to DP (it's a workflow issue as well as a work style issue for me).

I still haven't launched the new SoundSoap to see if they fixed the deal-breaker bugs from the previous version. I feel obligated to do so at some point when I'm more caught up on the stuff I let go for the past few months while working crippling overtime, but the incentive is quite low due to owning the full pro edition of RX3.

Armageddon · Post by **Armageddon** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:38 pm

mhschmieder wrote:I downloaded a trial of WaveLab 8 this weekend since I can't use Peak with 64-bit plugs and thus no longer find it very useful. WaveLab 8 is a huge improvement over the disastrous WaveLab 7, but I haven't gotten my head wrapped around it yet. Unfortunately I think the cross-grade period has long expired, but maybe I'll start with Elements just so I don't have to move my mastering work to DP (it's a workflow issue as well as a work style issue for me).

I still haven't launched the new SoundSoap to see if they fixed the deal-breaker bugs from the previous version. I feel obligated to do so at some point when I'm more caught up on the stuff I let go for the past few months while working crippling overtime, but the incentive is quite low due to owning the full pro edition of RX3.

Unfortunately, I'm still on Snow Leopard, still in 32-bit and am unable to upgrade (for now) to the new version, so I can't vouch for how well the re-christened 64-bit "Triumph" works, but I swear by Wave Editor:

http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/triumph/

dave pine · Post by **dave pine** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:43 am

really, i got screwed $200 from the, also... i'll write him too

mikehalloran · Post by **mikehalloran** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:29 am

mhschmieder wrote:I still haven't launched the new SoundSoap to see if they fixed the deal-breaker bugs from the previous version. I feel obligated to do so at some point when I'm more caught up on the stuff I let go for the past few months while working crippling overtime, but the incentive is quite low due to owning the full pro edition of RX3.

I am curious and believe in never saying 'never'. Seeing that I would qualify for the SS3 upgrade, I'd be interested in a hands on comparison between it and RX 3. That being said, SoundSoap would have to have some pretty cool compelling tricks up its sleeve for me to be at all interested.

dave pine · Post by **dave pine** » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:31 am

email sent, we'll see if he responds

dave pine · Post by **dave pine** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:25 am

no reply

David Polich · Post by **David Polich** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:47 am

FWIW, Peak 6 and 7 work in Lion, Mountain Lion, and as far as I can tell, Mavericks. So if you have a licensed copy of either, you're still good to go in 10.7, 10.8, and 10.9.

I got Wavelab 8 and DSP Quattro before upgrading from SL, as I was worried about losing Peak. Turns out I had nothing to worry about. At any rate, DSPQ
and Wavelab 8 are both pretty good, although Wavelab, being a Steinberg product, has a fairly steep learning curve and really isn't intuitive. DSPQ
has always been very straightforward and easy to work with. I'm not sure if
DSPQ is Mavericks-ready, I think Wavelab 8 is but I'm not entirely sure.

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