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How to access old Performer and Digital Performer files

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yikes when I try to open several years old files they have the word "ext" and it is grayed out. I was told I can type ".dpdoc" after the file name to retrieve.
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Try that or .perf. I can't remember. Email me a project file also and I'll see if I can figure it out. Also, if you stored these project files on a drive that was not formatted for Mac, you may have lost the resource fork and that's why they're not recognized. There may be a way to restore that after the fact.
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Post your OS and version of DP. It makes a big difference here..
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I have tried to open old DP5 projects with DP8 Windows. I moved the projects to a Windows formatted drive. I used .dpdoc. The MIDI parts opened in Windows DP8 but I got an error message on the audio files.
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I wonder if it is a Mac to Windows problem or maybe and SDII to wav problem?
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Search the forum for 'resource fork'. There have been several threads about recovering audio files copied to FAT formatted drives. One of those may have your solution.
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Windows won't recognize an SD2 file unless it has the .SD2 extension added to the file name.

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I know this isn't exactly the scope of the question, but just as a proof-of-concept, here is a file from October 10, 1988. DP not only opened it, but assigned the MIDI outs to an internal synth so that it played immediately. No further setup required!

That's not the oldest file I have, but it's pretty close. I also regularly open files from the various years in the 1990s, including DP files with audio. They all still work. (audio files have to be converted to WAV from SDII, but it does that automatically)

So, when we talk about accessing old DP and Performer files, even today's DP has you covered. Your work from 26 years ago is still there, usable.

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digital dog wrote:I have tried to open old DP5 projects with DP8 Windows. I moved the projects to a Windows formatted drive. I used .dpdoc. The MIDI parts opened in Windows DP8 but I got an error message on the audio files.
Any reason why the Windows version of DP8 should be able to open Mac DP5? Maybe you could open the DP5 project in the Mac version of DP8, then save as DP8 and then try to open with Windows version of DP8?
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I've thought of that but I live in the hollers of Appalachia and haven't been able to get hold of an intel Mac with DP installed, yet.
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James stated:
Any reason why the Windows version of DP8 should be able to open Mac DP5?
I know this isn't an issue with a lot of DP users, but when I bought the upgrade to DP8 Windows, the MOTU website stated that DP8 would be backwardly compatible to all older DP projects or something to that effect. I haven't looked lately, but I'd bet a dime that it still says that. That is THE reason I bought a Windows machine. I wanted to remix and remaster some old songs using the excellent updated capabilities of DP8. I know that Windows is what most of the world uses and it would make things easier to own a Windows computer. I've been a Mac guy since 1984 and a DP guy since DP2, and I don't like Windows, I've used it a work for years. I waited for almost a year to get the Windows version after I had paid for it and although I find DP8 to be a fine DAW for new projects, I cannot use it as I intended to.
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I'd hang in there with MOTU's tech support. Since DP is still relatively new to Windows, they might still be working out some unforeseen kinks.

Did you try the suggestion of adding "sd2" extensions to all the audio. BTW, I used a mac automator macro to add extensions to batches of files. I'm sure Windows has similar or better utilities for this. Report back if that doesn't sort it.
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Did you try the suggestion of adding "sd2" extensions to all the audio. BTW, I used a mac automator macro to add extensions to batches of files. I'm sure Windows has similar or better utilities for this. Report back if that doesn't sort it.
MOTU can do all they can to make 8 for Windows open older versions, all created on Macs.

They can't make Windows not require extension names, optional in some versions of the Mac OS, nonexistent in others. Some conversion is going to be required if these files were created in OS 7, 8 and possibly 9. You should be good if the files were created in OS X as long as extensions are checked On in system preferences. Zip the project folders before copying them over.
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Some were created in OS9 on a G4 but I think all were opened in OS10.4 on a G5 dual processor, both Power PC Macs. I copied all of my old Projects to a Windows friendly hard drive then on to my Windows machine. The Projects open, but I get a file error message on audio. I tried .dpdoc on the audio files to no avail. I will try your suggestions; opening projects with an Intel Mac running 8, an then saving; I haven't tried the .sd2 extension, and the zip compression is a pretty cool approach. Thanks everyone for your help. If I succeed I'll post my results.
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but I get a file error message
What error?

Zipping the project folder first is important even if copying from Mac to Mac or using DropBox. Certain file info is lost if you don't. There are a few threads on this.

It's not necessary if using Migration Assistant or Time Machine (not Windows issues, of course). Nor do you have to do zip when emailing files as it's done automatically.
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