Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
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- waterstrum
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Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
I'm using a Bella DV keyboard. (text entry, not piano keys)
I like all of the extra buttons and programmability.
It has a shuttle wheel.
My hope is to be able to use the wheel to move the wiper left and right with acceleration as I turn the wheel to the extremes.
I have searched the DP manual and so far have only come up with the following....
I've assigned the "forward" command to the first 4 positions of the "shuttle right" and "fast forward" to the remaining 3. I did the inverse on the "shuttle left".
This works, but is only a 2 speed thing.
It would be great to have the shuttle go faster when I turn the wheel farther.
I can't find any reference to accelerating the fast forward or fast reverse.
Is this possible?
Thanks and Happy New Year
I like all of the extra buttons and programmability.
It has a shuttle wheel.
My hope is to be able to use the wheel to move the wiper left and right with acceleration as I turn the wheel to the extremes.
I have searched the DP manual and so far have only come up with the following....
I've assigned the "forward" command to the first 4 positions of the "shuttle right" and "fast forward" to the remaining 3. I did the inverse on the "shuttle left".
This works, but is only a 2 speed thing.
It would be great to have the shuttle go faster when I turn the wheel farther.
I can't find any reference to accelerating the fast forward or fast reverse.
Is this possible?
Thanks and Happy New Year
All is well
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
Is there any solution for this problem now in 2017?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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- HCMarkus
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
If there is a solution, it lies in properly assigning whatever keystroke or other data the shuttle wheel puts out when moved to DP Commands. From experience, I know the Contour Design shuttle wheel can be programmed to repeatedly output whatever keystroke is assigned at a programmable rate. The Belia DV Keyboard is, to me, an unknown quantity.
- mikehalloran
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
My old JR CS-32 could do it but there have been no drivers since OS 10.4 and the hacks I used haven't worked since OS 10.6.
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
I bought a Contour Shuttle-Pro awhile back, hoping I could fast-forward and fast-rewind around the timeline of a score in DP, but was unable to get it to work that way.
It seemed to be sending continuous fast-forward or fas-rewind commands over and over to accomplish it.
I tried setting key-repeat in OS X preferences to the fastest, but that still didn't seem to help.
Part of it is that things seemed to be tied to DP's tracks window, and how far out or in you are zoomed.
I'd love it if I could somehow, while keeping things zoomed to single-measures in DP's track's window, be able to spin the shuttle wheel and get quickly to maybe an hour down further into the score.
Zooming out so the tracks window gets compacted and then moving the cursor is a pain if you do it allot, and just entering a timecode or measure number (the "dot trick") doesn't really help if you are trying get to a scene visually in the movie window instead of by remembering timecode numbers.
I did try this about 7 years ago with the Contour shuttle, so I was hoping there might be a solution or work-around to this sort of thing now with DP.
It seemed to be sending continuous fast-forward or fas-rewind commands over and over to accomplish it.
I tried setting key-repeat in OS X preferences to the fastest, but that still didn't seem to help.
Part of it is that things seemed to be tied to DP's tracks window, and how far out or in you are zoomed.
I'd love it if I could somehow, while keeping things zoomed to single-measures in DP's track's window, be able to spin the shuttle wheel and get quickly to maybe an hour down further into the score.
Zooming out so the tracks window gets compacted and then moving the cursor is a pain if you do it allot, and just entering a timecode or measure number (the "dot trick") doesn't really help if you are trying get to a scene visually in the movie window instead of by remembering timecode numbers.
I did try this about 7 years ago with the Contour shuttle, so I was hoping there might be a solution or work-around to this sort of thing now with DP.
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- HCMarkus
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
I use the jog wheel to zoom in and out horizontally. Makes it very quick to locate posiiton, then zoom back in.
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
that is a great idea!HCMarkus wrote:I use the jog wheel to zoom in and out horizontally. Makes it very quick to locate posiiton, then zoom back in.
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- Gravity Jim
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
HCMarkus, that's the best idea I've ever heard for using a job wheel.
It's such a linear, tape-based concept... shuttling the tape forward or backward, looking (or listening) for the scene or sound you want to work on.
But a DAW is an essentially non-linear system, so I've never found a use for a jog/shuttle wheel with a DAW. Until now!
It's such a linear, tape-based concept... shuttling the tape forward or backward, looking (or listening) for the scene or sound you want to work on.
But a DAW is an essentially non-linear system, so I've never found a use for a jog/shuttle wheel with a DAW. Until now!
Jim Bordner
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- HCMarkus
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Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
Glad you like the idea gentlemen... may it serve you well!
Re: Using Shuttle Wheel with DP
Jim, DP, for me, is certainly, at its core, a linear DAW. So was Studio Vision. It's why i chose and stuck with DP instead of Logic when Opcode went down. It fits with the linear approach to music I learned when I started. This is off topic maybe. My apologies if so.Gravity Jim wrote:
But a DAW is an essentially non-linear system, so I've never found a use for a jog/shuttle wheel with a DAW. Until now!
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