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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by Prime Mover » Thu May 31, 2012 3:48 am
As for 96kHz and 192kHz, I really couldn't care less. "Stuck" at 96kHz seems kind of absurd notion to me. I would never want to go above 96: my CPU would hate me, as would my hard drive. I'm very happy at 48kHz, and have no intention on going anywhere. I even had a session musician friend look at me funny, and said that many of the engineers in the Bay area that he had worked with were still using 44.1. I'd believe it too, and I really wouldn't blame them. But I do like working in 48kHz (I'm also more used to it, since I work with video for my day job). I can kinda see the appeal of 96, but it's not worth it to me. And 192 is just overkill.
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by mikehalloran » Thu May 31, 2012 7:30 am
I don't think so. Tried that with my 828mkII this morning - nope!
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by rhythm_kitchen » Thu May 31, 2012 10:40 am
Actually I recall shipping out on the '59 Imperial oil tanker. During an emergency downshift you'd change AM stations and then crash.
This little Motu 16 has a scope. If the brick wall filters allow for an increased frequency response, as I'd imagine, then one could actually use it for forensics. View the digital waterfall on say different cell phones, or older generation converters. Nice that it has MIDI. +1
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by corbo-billy » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:29 pm
The TRACK16 Breakout _

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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by kwiz » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:39 pm
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by MIDI Life Crisis » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:55 pm
Mmm mmm good!

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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by wvandyck » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:07 pm
But where?
And for how much?
No web listings yet.
Ok, check back in an hour.
What were the Small Faces really saying?
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by MIDI Life Crisis » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:34 pm
Get two, Bruté!

My caption for this picture is: C'mon MOTU - release the prisoners!
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by wvandyck » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:45 pm
My SW rep said he'd have more info later this week.
I get a feeling Track 16 is gonna sell like hot cakes:
"They're so light and fluffy white
We'll raise a fortune by tonight
They're so light and fluffy brown
They're the finest in the town"
What were the Small Faces really saying?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20203707/Audio/DP/MOTU.pdf
The Evolution of DP: A Loose Timeline
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20203707/Audio/DP/Evolution_Of_DP_2008.pdf
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by wvandyck » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:01 pm
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 ... ack16.html
Ships in 4 to 6 weeks.
What were the Small Faces really saying?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20203707/Audio/DP/MOTU.pdf
The Evolution of DP: A Loose Timeline
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20203707/Audio/DP/Evolution_Of_DP_2008.pdf
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by steff3 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:04 am
It is somehow funny they only included FW400 interface (although using a FW800 connector), not a FW800 interface.
Seems quite interesting to me. on the FW-bus with a UAD2 Sat .... Or leave the FW-Bus to the UAD2 Sat and connect it via USB (how is USB performance of MOTU compared to RME - who are somehow renown for achieving excellent result via USB ?)
Six balanced outputs for surround would have be better .... though ....
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by James Steele » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:11 am
kwiz wrote:Learned from what Apogee didn't do at first, and then covered all base's.
Good point. I find that MOTU has a history of sometimes not necessarily being first, but waiting and learning from the competition, and then doing it better. I'll be really interested in the quality of these mic pres.
Right now, I'm using a setup with an HD192 and a 24 I/O. I *NEVER* run at a sampling rate over 44.1, I simply bought the HD192 on the basis of the better circuitry and converters. Also, not using many outboard synths at all. I could probably stand to lose the 24 I/O, and given the likely eventual demise of PCIe, it might be good to divest myself of it sooner rather than later.
In a week, I'll find out if the new MacPros have PCIe slots. If they do, I'll have some breathing room.
Big question mark on this device is mic pres. I almost always am overdubbing and never recording more than 2 mic inputs at once. However, I currently have a Millennia HV-3C and I'm sure the pres in this thing might be good, but not that good.
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by mikehalloran » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:42 am
I don't understand your concern.
No MOTU devices are FW800. Since FW400 is forwards compatible and the bandwidth of FW800 isn't needed, it makes no sense to cripple the functionality and backwards compatibility.
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Re: New Product: MOTU Track 16
by jamesdunlopmusic » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:26 pm
Software's good too.
Plus the track 16 seems to be doubling up functions on the device taking away simplicity imo.. i may be wrong in due course!
Edit: Doesn't seem to be bus powered on usb 2.0...
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