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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby JSmith1234567 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:11 am

dix wrote:
Do we have now a global option to run them in real time by default, or that hasn't changed?
No change. No global run-plugins-real-time setting.


Bummer!

That was the ONE thing I was waiting for.

Guess I'll stick with 9.03.

Why they can't fix this is beyond me?
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby bayswater » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:48 am

RodneySauer wrote:
Klaus wrote:Lazy me... :mrgreen:
Has anyone compared the new time/pitch to Melodyne 4 ?
esp. the ability to do it with multiple tracks ?


I don't have Melodyne, but DP 9.5 does work with a selection of multiple tracks, though it loses cross-fades (see my post above).

I've done some time/pitch with IRCAM and Melodyne and found IRCAM worked better, even with changes in the 10% range. Do you think the Zynaptic algorithms worked better for you than IRCAM?

On crossfades, I found (in 9.5) edits that changed the relative position of the soundbytes, might make fades and cross fades disappear. I can see why cross fades, which are bassed in part on the overlap would be affected, but don't understand why simple fades would be affected. In most cases, I wanted to redo the fades anyway so it's not a big issue for me.
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby Klaus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:57 am

bayswater wrote:
RodneySauer wrote:
Klaus wrote:Lazy me... :mrgreen:
Has anyone compared the new time/pitch to Melodyne 4 ?
esp. the ability to do it with multiple tracks ?


I don't have Melodyne, but DP 9.5 does work with a selection of multiple tracks, though it loses cross-fades (see my post above).

I've done some time/pitch with IRCAM and Melodyne and found IRCAM worked better, even with changes in the 10% range. Do you think the Zynaptic algorithms worked better for you than IRCAM?

On crossfades, I found (in 9.5) edits that changed the relative position of the soundbytes, might make fades and cross fades disappear. I can see why cross fades, which are bassed in part on the overlap would be affected, but don't understand why simple fades would be affected. In most cases, I wanted to redo the fades anyway so it's not a big issue for me.

Does IRCAM multitrack ?
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby bayswater » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:27 am

Klaus wrote:Does IRCAM multitrack ?

Don't know, they might have a product that does. I used it on a two track recording to change key and tempo for someone that wanted to add new tracks. Worked well for that.
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby RodneySauer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:37 am

Klaus wrote:Does IRCAM multitrack ?


I was using the IRCAM algorithms included in MachFive, which only works on stereo files. I don't have the stand-alone IRCAM program.

Another cool thing about the DP 9.5 scaling is that you can apply it with a tempo-change ramp, so you can change tempos gradually, or in just part of a piece, with gradual transitions. I saw it on their demo video, but I'm going to have to learn how to actually accomplish it...
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby bralston » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:03 am

I would also encourage folks with the pitch shifting to try out both the formant correcting ZTX one and the standard ZTX. Don't assume the formant correcting one is best for everything or vise versa. The ZTX standard will probably do better on stereo polyphonic stuff (say an orchestral recording already mixed)...just really depends on the material though. But it is an easy thing to switch and try soundbite by soundbite. ;)
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby Gravity Jim » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:01 pm

Haven't had time to experiment with ZTX yet, but the Effects Performance window is already my new favorite thing about DP. One of those things that, when you see it, it makes you think, "Why didn't it always do that?"
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby RodneySauer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:27 pm

bralston wrote:I would also encourage folks with the pitch shifting to try out both the formant correcting ZTX one and the standard ZTX. Don't assume the formant correcting one is best for everything or vise versa. The ZTX standard will probably do better on stereo polyphonic stuff (say an orchestral recording already mixed)...just really depends on the material though. But it is an easy thing to switch and try soundbite by soundbite. ;)


And no, there doesn't seem to be a universal preference setting to decide what kind of ZTX you want to use (formant correcting or standard). Open the Soundbites window. Select the bites you're interested in (or select one then press command-A to select all). On the contextual menu (control-click to reveal it) choose Sound File Information. (Somehow, that command is not on the popup menu of the Soundbites menu, just the contextual menu and the main "Studio" menu). There's an item in the Sound File Information menu called "Transpose," and that's where you can select how you want transposing handled. There are also some popup menus with presets for "ZTX Pitch Play Quality" and "ZTX Offline Quality," but I can't find any information about what those settings mean...
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby dix » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:49 pm

And no, there doesn't seem to be a universal preference setting to decide what kind of ZTX you want to use (formant correcting or standard).
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby RodneySauer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:03 pm

Thanks!
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby Klaus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:07 pm

Maybe I missed links…
are there any videos around about how to use the new time/pitch in DP 9.5 ?
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby RodneySauer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:12 pm

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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby Babz » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:23 pm

Holy f^ck! Where have I been? I come up for air and it's Christmastime in September!

Can't wait to open my present!

Is this the first time we've seen a x.5 update?
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby HCMarkus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:39 pm

Babz wrote:Holy f^ck! Where have I been? I come up for air and it's Christmastime in September!

Can't wait to open my present!

Is this the first time we've seen a x.5 update?

Since 4.5, if I recall correctly.
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Re: DP 9.5 IS NOW UP!!! :)

Postby Klaus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:07 pm

RodneySauer wrote:Start at the source: the MOTU announcement and its associated videos.


Thanks Rodney !
Sorry not having mentioned...I was looking for multitrack manipulation videos…

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