MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup SOLVED
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- philbrown
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MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup SOLVED
This is a really old issue I've run into again. I've been using USB connections on all my gear but decided to dust off my MIDI Time Piece AV to hook up a non-USB device. The MIDI interface gets created in the MIDI window of Audio-MIDI setup in OS X. Everything's fine and works fine. The next day on restart the MTPAV is grayed out and now a new one- MTPAV #2 is active, so whatever I programmed yesterday to aim at the MTP now no longer works. I remember running into this a lot when I was using MIDI more. I was surprised to see this still cropping up as an issue. I had updated MIDI drivers about a year ago when I went to Sierra and updated again this morning after I ran into this. There's a chance that may fix it but I'm skeptical since it's such a long standing issue.
Has anyone found a solution to this or a cause of it?
Has anyone found a solution to this or a cause of it?
Last edited by philbrown on Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
I had this happen until I stopped using MOTU MIDI devices. But it didn't actually stop anything from working. Haven't seen it with other devices.
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
Changing the battery in my MTP-AV stopped the duplication thing happening for me.
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- mikehalloran
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
Yep. Me too.RROY wrote:Changing the battery in my MTP-AV stopped the duplication thing happening for me.
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- philbrown
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
I changed the battery a few years ago. Maybe its time again. Thanks everyone.mikehalloran wrote:Yep. Me too.RROY wrote:Changing the battery in my MTP-AV stopped the duplication thing happening for me.
EDIT: 2 screws - that was easy. The battery had a bit of a bulge to it, so that was likely the problem.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
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Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
- philbrown
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
Same thing the next day after updating MIDI drivers and putting in a new battery.
EDIT: I'm not holding my breath on this ancient bug, but I put a Techlink in anyway.
EDIT: I'm not holding my breath on this ancient bug, but I put a Techlink in anyway.
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Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
- MIDI Life Crisis
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
I seem to recall from a MOTU phone call on the matter (i.e. - me too) that the "trick" is the order things are shut down. I think it was a matter of powering down the device and any MIDI routers before quitting DP. Maybe the reverse but I think it's as stated above. Hope that helps. If I can find my only thread from years ago I'll post it here.
- philbrown
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
Thanks. If you remembered maybe someone at MOTU will know the specifics. I have 2 other interfaces to try in the meantime, a Fastlane and a Micro-something - don't remember the exact name. Can't believe the Fastlane is still in production. I've had that thing for many many years.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I seem to recall from a MOTU phone call on the matter (i.e. - me too) that the "trick" is the order things are shut down. I think it was a matter of powering down the device and any MIDI routers before quitting DP. Maybe the reverse but I think it's as stated above. Hope that helps. If I can find my only thread from years ago I'll post it here.
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Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
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- philbrown
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup
Thanks for looking that up MLC. I've never imported bundles in DP, but more importantly I wasn't even using DP when this happened - I was using another pgm called Numerology with my modular synth. Tech support thinks it's the battery even though I just put a brand new battery in it. They gave me some steps to try.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I did find a thread with a similar problem. Bundles!
viewtopic.php?p=221671#p221671
I'm going to try my ancient Fastlane interface and see what happens and I also have a Microlite.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
- philbrown
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Re: MIDI device gets duplicated in Audio-MIDI setup SOLVED
MOTU tech support suggested that I create a new configuration in the AMS MIDI window. I'd forgotten you can even do that (It's a pull-down at the top of the window). After several restarts that seems to have solved the issue.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce