Stuck Notes with Yosemite and MOTU MIDI Driver

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I don't get 'em and haven't for a long time.

[jotff]

just spent the last 2 hours giving the new beta MIDI driver a workout with two separate setups; one with a macpro and a mtpav usb, and the other a macbookpro with a micro lite. i used both the built-in USB3 ports on the computers, and a powered 10port USB2 hub. sending on multiple cables, multiple channels of MIDI notes, continuous data, and sysex messages. not one hung note from either setup. so far, so good.

[toodamnhip]

I don't know. Will they?

It appears not.....
In my fantasy mind I envision developers actually finding a cause and a "cure", there must be many under Hood causes to this all too common issue. It seems like a game of wack a mole

[curtnelson73]

I have a 2014 MBP Retina running Logic with with an MTP AV. I've been having the stuck notes problem for the last several days. In my case, using a USB 2 hub between the computer and the MTP AV didn't work. I installed this beta driver and it solved the problem!

MTP AV strait into the USB3 port, works great!

Thanks for sharing this!

[toodamnhip]

I have a 2014 MBP Retina running Logic with with an MTP AV. I've been having the stuck notes problem for the last several days. In my case, using a USB 2 hub between the computer and the MTP AV didn't work. I installed this beta driver and it solved the problem!

MTP AV strait into the USB3 port, works great!

Thanks for sharing this!

That's great man

[James Steele]

I don't know. Will they?

It appears not.....
In my fantasy mind I envision developers actually finding a cause and a "cure", there must be many under Hood causes to this all too common issue. It seems like a game of wack a mole

Oops. I guess they did according to the reviews of the beta driver. One less rhetorical question.

[toodamnhip]

I don't know. Will they?

It appears not.....
In my fantasy mind I envision developers actually finding a cause and a "cure", there must be many under Hood causes to this all too common issue. It seems like a game of wack a mole

Oops. I guess they did according to the reviews of the beta driver. One less rhetorical question.

It's really nice to hear that they found the problem and solve it with a new driver that's great. But unfortunately, in the whack a mole universe of stuck notes, I am afraid the odds are this will happen again. This makes me wish I was a programmer so I could understand why the mole keeps reappearing LOL. For me LA scoring strings tends to stick a lot and I have watched their forms go crazy trying to find out why it sticks so much with Digital performer. Add VE pro to that and you really have some stuck notes at times.By the way, I got my CPU chip today so tonight I will be doing the big upgrade... fingers crossed. Hey James, did you have to buy geek bench or did you run your tests in 32-bit mode? The free version seems to only run 32-bit mode

[mikehalloran]

The new driver was released today

http://www.motu.com/download

[curtnelson73]

The new driver was released today

http://www.motu.com/download

Fantastic! I'll install this evening before working on hardware synth lay ins and post results.

Thanks everyone!

[monkey man]

I guess they did according to the reviews of the beta driver. One less rhetorical question.

I'm tempted to say "yes, one less rectoral question", but I won't.

This really is great news. One less lil' thing to worry about. Let's hope it doesn't reappear down the road again as it's always seemed to have found a way to do...

[curtnelson73]

I've been printing hardware synth parts all evening with Logic synced to Pro Tools. New driver works great.

Thanks MOTU!

[monkey man]

Fantastic.

This is lookin' better all the time.

[James Steele]

It's really nice to hear that they found the problem and solve it with a new driver that's great. But unfortunately, in the whack a mole universe of stuck notes, I am afraid the odds are this will happen again.

Well, I suppose anything COULD happen, but there's another thread going on about this and it appears fixed. Although, I admire your dogged determination to maintain your skepticism. Regardless, it's fixed for now, despite MOTU's predicted future screwup somewhere in the distant future. Try to just enjoy the moment.

[toodamnhip]

It's really nice to hear that they found the problem and solve it with a new driver that's great. But unfortunately, in the whack a mole universe of stuck notes, I am afraid the odds are this will happen again.

Well, I suppose anything COULD happen, but there's another thread going on about this and it appears fixed. Although, I admire your dogged determination to maintain your skepticism. Regardless, it's fixed for now, despite MOTU's predicted future screwup somewhere in the distant future. Try to just enjoy the moment.

Not sure MOTU’s predicted screw up is only for MOTU. Other DAWs also have stuck note problems. And, of course, we haven;t even discussed the ancient protocol for MIDI that developers still have to contend with. Imagine a piano VI that had 1000 velocity levels available in a new MIDI protocol?

Does anyone here know if there is any sort of movement to improve MIDI in such a manner?

[curtnelson73]

It's really nice to hear that they found the problem and solve it with a new driver that's great. But unfortunately, in the whack a mole universe of stuck notes, I am afraid the odds are this will happen again.

Well, I suppose anything COULD happen, but there's another thread going on about this and it appears fixed. Although, I admire your dogged determination to maintain your skepticism. Regardless, it's fixed for now, despite MOTU's predicted future screwup somewhere in the distant future. Try to just enjoy the moment.

Not sure MOTU’s predicted screw up is only for MOTU. Other DAWs also have stuck note problems. And, of course, we haven;t even discussed the ancient protocol for MIDI that developers still have to contend with. Imagine a piano VI that had 1000 velocity levels available in a new MIDI protocol?

Does anyone here know if there is any sort of movement to improve MIDI in such a manner?

I've heard rumors of an upgrade to MIDI spec a few times over the years. At the risk of sounding like Mr. Old School and getting laughed at, I find the current MIDI spec to work great as long as you use plenty of interface ports and not too many "thru" connections. I've been using it since the 80's. Control surfaces even source lots of realtime continuous data through MIDI pipelines over USB, Firewire and Network connections. 127 steps of velocity have always worked great for me. But I can see why you would expect some kind of forward movement after over 30 years.

Backward compatibility would be key. But I certainly wouldn't be against it.