OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Same here. . . MOTU 2408 MK3 (2 of them). I don't have time to problem-solve, unfortunately.
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Apple's M2 Mac Studio with 96 RAM; macOS X 14.5 (beta 3); 1 Internal SSD, 8 External SSDs, MOTU 828es audio device, AKAI MPK88 Keyboard Controller
Software:
DP11.31, Logic Pro X, FCPX, DaVinci Resolve; VSL's Super Package, VEPro 7 & MIR Pro, VI Pro 2; Altiverb 8; Cinesample's CineSympnony Complete Bundle; Native-Instrument's Komplete 13 Ultimate Collectors Edition, and many more VIs.
Apple's M2 Mac Studio with 96 RAM; macOS X 14.5 (beta 3); 1 Internal SSD, 8 External SSDs, MOTU 828es audio device, AKAI MPK88 Keyboard Controller
Software:
DP11.31, Logic Pro X, FCPX, DaVinci Resolve; VSL's Super Package, VEPro 7 & MIR Pro, VI Pro 2; Altiverb 8; Cinesample's CineSympnony Complete Bundle; Native-Instrument's Komplete 13 Ultimate Collectors Edition, and many more VIs.
Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Same here with original 828.
iMac 2.7 i5, DP 9.5.1, 10.13.3, Apollo Twin, 828, MTPAV, Toontrack, Spectrasonics, BFD3, Drumcore, Reason 10, Live 10, Logic X, Spitfire, Zebra, Miroslav, Waves, Kronos X, MOXF 6, Axiom 49.
Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Ditto - using an UltraLite
UltraLite - MacMini 2.0 4core - 10.9.2
Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Same problem with a 1st gen Traveler. I'm going to fill out a techlink now.
Perhaps this thread belongs in the "MOTU Hardware Mac OSX" forum...Admin?...James?
Perhaps this thread belongs in the "MOTU Hardware Mac OSX" forum...Admin?...James?
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Let's pretend I have a life and sometimes I might have been out of town. I'll move it now. I haven't installed 10.9.2 yet? Is there a PCI versus Firewire interface correlation here perhaps?cuttime wrote:Same problem with a 1st gen Traveler. I'm going to fill out a techlink now.
Perhaps this thread belongs in the "MOTU Hardware Mac OSX" forum...Admin?...James?
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Seems to have affected both.James Steele wrote:Is there a PCI versus Firewire interface correlation here perhaps?
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Yep... I went ahead and updated to 10.9.2 using the combo updater and had the same thing happen to me:
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Oh yeah... and it enabled every input and output! Yipes!
ADDENDUM: Fortunately, I have an RTF file with a list of my inputs and outputs and once I set things back correctly, it looks like things are okay again. Yeesh...
ADDENDUM: Fortunately, I have an RTF file with a list of my inputs and outputs and once I set things back correctly, it looks like things are okay again. Yeesh...
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
From my "In Progress" TechLink:
"Thanks for passing this along. We have found the same issue on several of our units after the 10.9.2 update. 10.9.2 included several changes in Core Audio. I cannot say at this point if the fix lies in a MOTU driver update, or if this is out of our hands at the moment, (in that Core Audio's changes inhibit this feature).
I will update you as we learn more. Let me know if there is any more info to pass along."
"Thanks for passing this along. We have found the same issue on several of our units after the 10.9.2 update. 10.9.2 included several changes in Core Audio. I cannot say at this point if the fix lies in a MOTU driver update, or if this is out of our hands at the moment, (in that Core Audio's changes inhibit this feature).
I will update you as we learn more. Let me know if there is any more info to pass along."
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Thanks for that. I will see if affects my functionality this weekend. I only engage my 828mkII while tracking in my studio. Otherwise I edit and mix through Core Audio. Since my setup is simple, I'm hoping that it works - if not, I'm in the same boat looking for a fix.
Since this affects the current mkIII as well as earlier interfaces, MOTU does need to address it. I just hope that they can.
It's not like the PCIe-TB issue where no manufacturer has released a solution and maybe none will.
Since this affects the current mkIII as well as earlier interfaces, MOTU does need to address it. I just hope that they can.
It's not like the PCIe-TB issue where no manufacturer has released a solution and maybe none will.
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
Well good thing for me is I had an RTF file that was just printed documentation of my setup and after I enabled the correct ins and outs, all was well. I still can't designate the default input and output pair anymore however. Fortunately, when I assign system audio to the PCI-424, it's going out the correct output pair.
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
That's what I am hoping for, too.Fortunately, when I assign system audio ..., it's going out the correct output pair.
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
You will not regret Snow Leopard ?
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
SL lacked functionality that I now consider critical for my work. I would never go back on purpose.You will not regret Snow Leopard ?
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Re: OS 10.9.2 Altered MOTU Audio Setup
I can't remember if this was the case before 10.9.2, but Audio MIDI Setup - Audio Devices - Configure Speakers seems to have usurped the functions formerly available in MOTU Audio Setup.
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