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by menright » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:33 pm
Like the song? Like the mix? Love to hear your feedback, the more techie the better!
by mikehalloran » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:53 am
The technical stuff:
I wouldn't have the lead vocal so 'out front' and drowning in reverb—unless you want to highlight that as a stylistic effect, then perhaps it's not enough. If it was drier, it would be just as easy to understand mixed back a bit.
Backing off on the vocals a little would let you tighten up the backbeat. I wanted the kick and backbeat to slam and they don't—careful eq (multiband eq?) and compression are your friends here. Likewise, your beatbox percussion is cool but it doesn't stand out like you may want it to.
It's ok to remind me of vintage Zappa without trying to ape him—good in fact. However, that is the first place I would go. Listen to his mixes and how everything has its own space.
Don't be afraid to use effects that change through the course of a song. Used subtly, it keeps the sound fresh in your brain if no two subsequent hits sound identical.
I want the percussion on a track like that to kick me in the chest, hit me over the head and knock me out. All of this with the vocals sitting in the middle and the words intelligible. Tall order? Perhaps but all of your ingredients are there. I think you need to find some secret sauce to bring out everything.
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by stubbsonic » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:46 pm
I agree with Mike that the vocal could come down a little during those "verses". However, I think it might disappear in spots. If I was mixing this, I'd make the vocal dryer reverb-wise, and maybe even radio-ize it a little (high-pass, compress hard).
One little test you can do is turn the volume down while you monitor your vocal level and at low levels, the vocal should still sit in an appropriate spot. Test this with some commercial mixes and you'll get what I mean. The other thing is that the vocal can seem WAY too up front in smaller speakers-- that's part of the balancing act: making the vocals sit in the right spot so the mix will work on big or small speakers.
Apart from that I thought balance was fine-- appropriate for the kind of lo-fi aesthetic.
by menright » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:17 pm
I can't thank you guys enough for the comments. Motunation is a very nice place!
by menright » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:41 am
The low end has been cleaned up using a lot of EQ on the various drum elements and selective compression on some of the samples. I used a whole new sample for the bass guitar that took it into John Entwhistle territory and out of the low-end almost entirely. I also dropped one of the verses and made the whole thing about a minute shorter.
Anyway here is the posted track and thanks again for your highly-specific tech remarks. If anyone has any new comments, please post away. I'm listening!
by stubbsonic » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:22 am
I still think the lead vocal is a little too loud (but just a dB or two) most of the time. The other thing that the compressor has done is brought up some breath noises & now some edits are audible in the sparse sections. Should be easy to clean up both of these issues in the volume automation. The compression does add a good vibe.
Sounds way better!
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