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DP won't run under new User

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Following a serious problem with my Mac (not related to DP as far as I can tell), I have had to create a completely new user in the system. DP will now not let me open anything. I double-click a project I've been working on and DP launches but goes no further: the project doesn't open, neither does DP's welcome page. If I then try to open a file from the menu, DP crashes. If I start DP without double-clicking a project, I do see the welcome page (though without any of my recent projects), and if I click the Open button, crash.

Maybe I should add that I've also had to rearrange the way I handle my files, so all my DP work is on an external drive, while the app itself is on the internal. But then, previously I had my whole User folder on an external drive. I guess thew main difference is that my music work is now separate from my User folder.
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Re: DP won't run under new User

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Look at "Sharing & Permissions" on the drive(s) DP is trying to access by accessing "Get Info", see at bottom of Get Info window.
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The app is on the boot drive—this is best. Create a new project—give it a unique name (it can be Test), drag some sound bites into it and save it on the external drive. You should be able to reopen this test project even after a reboot.

Assuming you can, you can now deal with why the others won't open. There are a number of ways to fix this. The easiest I know is to grant the proper Read & Write permissions in Get Info—run it on the project folder. Grant yourself as Administrator Read & Write permissions. Then highlight the Admin and check the box Apply to enclosed... and click Yes when the system asks.

If that doesn't fix it, let us know.
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OK, a small development. I dragged a fresh copy of all the motu preferences from the old preferences folder into the new one - entering passwords where necessary - then launched DP from the Dock again. This time, curiously, I didn’t see the usual fancy splash screen. It started showing the welcome page but immediately interrupted it with an alert:

Digital Performer has encountered an error.
Script error:
Error: Error occurred during command
GetRecentDocumentList: OS error:
File permissions error (-54)

When I dismissed this with the OK button, the welcome page completed, albeit with 'undefined' under the Recent heading. But again, when I click either Open... or New, I get the now familiar crash.

I've looked at all the folders I've just dragged over from the old prefs, and they all have the correct permissions: I can Read and Write, as I can with the enclosed items. The odd thing though is that in the little list of names under Sharing & Permissions (me, staff and everyone), I'm listed twice, and in both cases the '-' button is greyed out so I can't remove one of them (the only one I could remove is staff).

So I can't work out to what that permissions error applies. It's clearly the list of recent documents, but I don't know where to look for that.

Any clues here?
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Hmm. Somehow my previous reply to Mike Halloran has gone missing - this was before the 'small development' post. All I said was that I get the same result whether I try to open an existing project or create a new one, and that I'd already done the permissions stuff.
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Just canvassing opinion: would it be worth my while to use something like AppZapper to remove all traces of DP (except maybe the MAS plug-ins) then start from scratch with a fresh installation? Or would that be too dangerous in some way?
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I've just had this rather interesting reply from a MOTU tech person:

"I am very certain that the issue you are running into is related to your iCloud account. Apple made a change in iCloud that causes this exact problem on 10.10.

The solution is to upgrade to OS to 10.11, 10.12 or 10.13 or to create a new user account without logging in with your Apple ID."

...to which I've responded:

"I've been putting off upgrading to High Sierra, so maybe now's the time to do it. Maybe tomorrow..."

So that's what I'll do and hope for the best. This afternoon I have a plumber to cope with, then off to a concert, but tomorrow I'll steel myself! I'll report back.
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Ok, reporting back as promised, and I'm delighted to say the news is good. Not everything went 100% smoothly about the OS upgrade, but as far as this DP issue is concerned: definitely cured! ...and let's hope it stays that way!
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Glad you got it working. I'm straining to understand how iCloud could affect DP. Just goes to show the laws of unintended consequences seem to always be in place.
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Oh, I'm straining too about that! Utterly mystifying... :lol:
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This is an old post but I thought I'd confirm: This behavior and crash happens on my OSX 10.10 Yosemite system in DP 8 any time DP tries to access a finder window. That could be File > Open, export soundbyte, whatever. I have another user account which does not use iCloud and DP works fine on that user.

I believe upgrades to the OS and to DP both fix the problem, so this is an old esoteric bug that's Apple's fault but long gone for most.
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