Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
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- lampfilmusic
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Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
DP's Quickscribe editor (and Notation Editor) are terrific, particularly with regard to the ease with which keys can be worked in, note spacing, quantization, lyric alignment etc.
There is however one GAPING omission in DP, and many users wonder why the wonderful wizards at MOTU development haven't implemented this, given how simple it would be to do. - It's the ability to draw phrase marks and slurs into Quickscribe.
If DP is to be used to get a rough-and-ready score out for players (very useful), then it seems obvious that it could be possible to show phrase marks and slurs. These have an humungous effect on the way played music is performed and sounds. A score without phrase marks is tantamount to a text without punctuation.
Please MOTU R&D. We are on our knees. Implement nestable phrase marks (can also be used to make slurs) into the QuickScribe Editor and then we can party!
There is however one GAPING omission in DP, and many users wonder why the wonderful wizards at MOTU development haven't implemented this, given how simple it would be to do. - It's the ability to draw phrase marks and slurs into Quickscribe.
If DP is to be used to get a rough-and-ready score out for players (very useful), then it seems obvious that it could be possible to show phrase marks and slurs. These have an humungous effect on the way played music is performed and sounds. A score without phrase marks is tantamount to a text without punctuation.
Please MOTU R&D. We are on our knees. Implement nestable phrase marks (can also be used to make slurs) into the QuickScribe Editor and then we can party!
- stubbsonic
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Re: Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
It is one of the few things that is missing from DP's QuickScribe, however, it might not be as easy as you think to implement. Even the ties in DP are not always very easy to see.
What I've always done is printed the parts and drawn in the slurs by hand.
What is generally expected is that you use DP's notation for rough reference and export to a notation program for more full featured part printing.
You're right though, it does seem very close to useable if slurs were added. I'd also like the ability to control measure spacing per line, insert line break, and insert page break.
What I've always done is printed the parts and drawn in the slurs by hand.
What is generally expected is that you use DP's notation for rough reference and export to a notation program for more full featured part printing.
You're right though, it does seem very close to useable if slurs were added. I'd also like the ability to control measure spacing per line, insert line break, and insert page break.
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- mikehalloran
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Re: Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
Why not export via MusicXML? Then it can be imported into any notation app. Even the MuseScore freeware can handle slurs and ties.
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- lampfilmusic
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Re: Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
...Because if DP incorporated slurs in its notation, it would be self-contained.
- FMiguelez
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Re: Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
It would need much more to be self contained... There are no dynamic marks, no way to beam groups of notes with custom patterns (3+2, etc.), not even simple accents or staccato marks, no clef changes...lampfilmusic wrote:...Because if DP incorporated slurs in its notation, it would be self-contained.
It was designed for extremely simple lead sheets, nothing more.
Hopefully that will change with DP X. In the mean time, it is manual drawing time, as Stubbsonic suggested, or porting it to a dedicated notation app, like Mr. Halloran said.
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- stubbsonic
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Re: Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
DP does do dynamics marks. There's a whole separate palette for them. They work pretty well.FMiguelez wrote: There are no dynamic marks
Everything else is spot on.
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- FMiguelez
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Re: Phrase Marks in QuickScribe Editor
stubbsonic wrote:DP does do dynamics marks. There's a whole separate palette for them. They work pretty well.FMiguelez wrote: There are no dynamic marks
Everything else is spot on.
Woops... I stand corrected then. Thanks for letting me know, so I stop making an arse out of myself with this
I suppose this shows how much I use QS for printing scores...
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