DP MIDI recording half step up?(solved)

Tonio · Post by **Tonio** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:19 am

this is weird...

Have an issue with DP recording MIDI a half step up, than what I played.

e.g. say I record a simple melody line, DP will record ( and playback) a half step up . example:Played C turns into C#/Db in MIDI graphic editor , and is represented in the VI's virtual MIDI keys.
Appears to happen w/ VI's : Kontakt 5 x, Sampletank 3, but not on a drum VI: Superior drummer, ez drummer.

Using a M Audio Axiom 49 via USB.

Checked for any transpose MIDI plugs, MIDI patch thru options, and the VI's pref's

Anything else to check?

terrybritton · Post by **terrybritton** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:03 pm

Tonio wrote:Anything else to check?

This would be the point where I would have to check my sanity, that such a strange and frustrating thing didn't cause me to lose it!

Sorry, no suggestions beyond what you've done already. Why would sample player VST's be the oddballs?

Terry

cuttime · Post by **cuttime** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:37 pm

I would use a MIDI monitor to make sure your data is what you think it should be. Is there a master tuning on your controller?

https://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/

buzzsmith · Post by **buzzsmith** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:40 pm

This has happened to me when I accidentally set my M-Audio keyboard controller to transpose. In other words, I play a C, it transmits a Db and DP, of course, records the Db.

And you may not have noticed that in Superior Drummer as some of the mapping is so similar. B0 and C1 both trigger a kick, for instance.

Worth a shot!

Buzzy

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FMiguelez · Post by **FMiguelez** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:44 pm

It is SO annoying when little things like this prevent one from making music and working. Total inspiration and workflow killers...

I'd try killing DP's preferences. Perhaps they got corrupted?
If it doesn't make a difference, simply return there whatever you moved or deleted (you can let the Finder replace them safely).

I never remember which file exactly it is, but I'dstart with the plist and the Preferences one inside the com.motu folder in your user Preferences (leave the AU and VST scan files if you don't want DP to take ages to scan them again).

If this doesn't work, you'll soon become very fluent in Db, F# and Ab keys. Kind of like sight-transposing. What's wrong with that?

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:03 pm

buzzsmith wrote:This has happened to me when I accidentally set my M-Audio keyboard controller to transpose. In other words, I play a C, it transmits a Db and DP, of course, records the Db.

And you may not have noticed that in Superior Drummer as some of the mapping is so similar. B0 and C1 both trigger a kick, for instance.

Worth a shot!

Buzzy

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This seems the most likely.

Try installing and using a program like this: https://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/ It will allow you to see exactly what information that your controller is sending, so that you can confirm if it's a hardware issue or not.

If the hardware is sending out the correct messages, then we have some major sleuthing to do!

stubbsonic · Post by **stubbsonic** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:13 pm

Are you always getting the transpose, even during recording/patch-thru? If so, you could just transpose your keyboard down a half-step and see if that fixes (or at least works-around it).

I'd suspect that a transpose setting on the keyboard is causing it, if you are seeing the correct notes in your track, then it might be a pitch-wheel problem. Sometimes an errant bit of pitch wheel data (and event chasing can cause such things.

Tonio · Post by **Tonio** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:39 pm

thanks for the ideas to check.

I do have midimonitor, forgot about that

I'll check out the other ideas when I get back to my rig.

Tonio · Post by **Tonio** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:06 pm

alrigthy then ...

midimonitor confirms 1/2 step transpose getting output from the Axiom. Went to range zone edit and cleared that up. Must of fudged it when learning to assign stuff for MainStage

Buzzy wins

oh, I do know about the multiple kick drum notes

FM wrote:If this doesn't work, you'll soon become very fluent in Db, F# and Ab keys. Kind of like sight-transposing. What's wrong with that?

Ain't that the truth LOL

Cheers

buzzsmith · Post by **buzzsmith** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:03 pm

Tonio wrote:alrigthy then ...
Buzzy wins

Cool!

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:22 pm

It would be helpful if you would go to your original post and edit it. In the title section add [SOLVED].

Thanks.

Tonio · Post by **Tonio** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:57 am

done- ski

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:11 pm

Thanks, man! Happy drumming.

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