Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
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- philbrown
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Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
I doubt anything can be done about it, so this probably amounts to a curiosity question...
Why do certain plug-ins [I'm lookin' at you Slate] disable DP's transport if the plug window is on top? Seems like I read about this quite a while back but don't recall specifics. Whatever the cause it's incredibly annoying. If there is a solution or workaround I would be very happy to know about it.
Why do certain plug-ins [I'm lookin' at you Slate] disable DP's transport if the plug window is on top? Seems like I read about this quite a while back but don't recall specifics. Whatever the cause it's incredibly annoying. If there is a solution or workaround I would be very happy to know about it.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
Are they really disabling transport, or just becoming the focus for keyboard shortcuts normally used by the transport? I think it took updates by DP or the plugin to deal with this in the past. Probably the plugin -- many DAWs use spacebar for play.
Maybe a workaround is to define the keyboard shortcuts in the OS X preferences, e.g., link spacebar to play in DP at the OS level, and maybe that will catch the key press and send it to DP before the plugin sees it.
Maybe a workaround is to define the keyboard shortcuts in the OS X preferences, e.g., link spacebar to play in DP at the OS level, and maybe that will catch the key press and send it to DP before the plugin sees it.
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- philbrown
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
I guess it's a focus thing- whichever window is in front.bayswater wrote:Are they really disabling transport, or just becoming the focus for keyboard shortcuts normally used by the transport?
I get the feeling that might have repercussions but I may give it a try anyway. Thanks Bayswater.I think it took updates by DP or the plugin to deal with this in the past. Probably the plugin -- many DAWs use spacebar for play.
Maybe a workaround is to define the keyboard shortcuts in the OS X preferences, e.g., link spacebar to play in DP at the OS level, and maybe that will catch the key press and send it to DP before the plugin sees it.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
Yes, it might. I don't know. One could be that you don't be able to type a space in a text filed in DP, if the order of execution is OS then DP.philbrown wrote:
I get the feeling that might have repercussions but I may give it a try anyway. Thanks Bayswater.
2018 Mini i7 32G 10.14.6, DP 11.3, Mixbus 9, Logic 10.5, Scarlett 18i8
- philbrown
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
I tried to do a OS>DP mouse workaround in a similar fashion recently and it had negative consequences much as you just described.bayswater wrote:Yes, it might. I don't know. One could be that you don't be able to type a space in a text filed in DP, if the order of execution is OS then DP.philbrown wrote:
I get the feeling that might have repercussions but I may give it a try anyway. Thanks Bayswater.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
This happens with a few plugins for me.. the Lexicon PCM stands out as a recent one. It's definitely a key command focus issue, because I can still control the transport via Mackie Control from the console.
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- philbrown
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
I guess it's a plug issue and not DP since it's only a few plugs but there's no way to really know for sure.
I switched prefs yesterday to 'run plugs in real time' to fix another iussue and it seems to have solved this one as well (with Slate anyway), or maybe it's just an inconsistent thing. Time will tell.
I just bought Lexicon PCM too but haven't really used it yet to know if it has the same issue.
I switched prefs yesterday to 'run plugs in real time' to fix another iussue and it seems to have solved this one as well (with Slate anyway), or maybe it's just an inconsistent thing. Time will tell.
I just bought Lexicon PCM too but haven't really used it yet to know if it has the same issue.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
Altiverb (in my case and amongst others) grabs the space bar.
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
I have most of the plug-ins you speak of and had never had the issue. Funny how these things happen.
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- philbrown
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Re: Plug-ins that disable DP's transport E.G. Slate
That's interesting. Maybe it's a DP setting. Do you happen to know your prefs as far as running plugs in real time, pre-gen etc? Also directing that to the other posters in this thread.supersonic wrote:I have most of the plug-ins you speak of and had never had the issue. Funny how these things happen.
2020 iMac 27" 3.6GHz 10 core i9 • Mac OS 12.2.1 • DP 11.04 • UAD-8 Octo card • Midas M32R
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce
Plugs: UAD•Slate•Scuffham•Flux IRCAM•NI Komplete•Klanghelm•Waves•Spectrasonics•Arturia•Soundtoys•Nomad Factory•PSP•Stillwell•Cytomic•Korg•Five12•GForce