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Re: Can anyone shed light on this DP8 & DP9 Change?

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Wow this is nuts thanks for the verification that it's functioning as it should. I'll make sure I have a clean install and see if that helps. If you have any other input for me to resolve this that would be great because this small issue is a total pain.
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While the copy/paste issue is certainly something worth keeping track of, did you try the method I listed? If you store the script and the DP file together, it's the easiest way to name a DP file. No copying/pasting necessary. None.

If you had tried it, you probably wouldn't want to use the old method again. It just doesn't get any easier. Yet... silence.

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Along with the shooshie's idea, here's another one:

I use https://manytricks.com/namemangler/ to handle such things. You easily do something like 'Rename folder and .dpdoc file to the name of the first found .doc file in the directory' and various other very cool things.

It does take a bit of time to learn to use it, but it's exceptionally powerful.

You could also learn to use the command-line tools that OS X comes with, which allow you identical capabilities.

I know the c&p problem still exists for you, but there's at least a few ideas for workarounds (that may be better than you current workflow even!) if you can't get it working.
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Shooshie wrote:While the copy/paste issue is certainly something worth keeping track of, did you try the method I listed? If you store the script and the DP file together, it's the easiest way to name a DP file. No copying/pasting necessary. None.

If you had tried it, you probably wouldn't want to use the old method again. It just doesn't get any easier. Yet... silence.

You can lead a horse to water...

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Yeah I'm gonna give that a try thanks. The only thing is I've been doing this for 18+ years and you know I simply have a work flow that I like and honestly by DP simply doing what it always did...that's what I'd like most. So, if I can figure out why my specific system isn't functioning properly that would be my best solution. But again, yes, I will give your process a try - it may be even better like you say!!
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csiaudio wrote:
Shooshie wrote:While the copy/paste issue is certainly something worth keeping track of, did you try the method I listed? If you store the script and the DP file together, it's the easiest way to name a DP file. No copying/pasting necessary. None.

If you had tried it, you probably wouldn't want to use the old method again. It just doesn't get any easier. Yet... silence.

You can lead a horse to water...

Shooshie
Yeah I'm gonna give that a try thanks. The only thing is I've been doing this for 18+ years and you know I simply have a work flow that I like and honestly by DP simply doing what it always did...that's what I'd like most. So, if I can figure out why my specific system isn't functioning properly that would be my best solution. But again, yes, I will give your process a try - it may be even better like you say!!
One click in the Save dialog, and your file is named.

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Shooshie wrote: One click in the Save dialog, and your file is named.

It's that simple.
I dunno, man. Seems like a lotta work to moi. :rofl:
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Well even though I updated to 10.11.6 and a clean install of DP 9.1 I believe I found the issue, so I'll post it here just in case anyone else experiences this.

When in DP if you hit 'Command+N' for a New Project it won't allow you to paste any thing into the Dialog window :( However if you select the 'New' button in the DP Project Start Up Window it will allow you to paste something into the Dialog window.

Which obviously this makes absolutely NO sense what so ever but at least this is a very workable solution for me.

So thanks for everyone's input and of course MIDI Life Crisis' sarcasm because what would we do without him chiming in on every post, right!?
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csiaudio wrote:Well even though I updated to 10.11.6 and a clean install of DP 9.1 I believe I found the issue, so I'll post it here just in case anyone else experiences this.

When in DP if you hit 'Command+N' for a New Project it won't allow you to paste any thing into the Dialog window :( However if you select the 'New' button in the DP Project Start Up Window it will allow you to paste something into the Dialog window.

Which obviously this makes absolutely NO sense what so ever but at least this is a very workable solution for me.

So thanks for everyone's input and of course MIDI Life Crisis' sarcasm because what would we do without him chiming in on every post, right!?

I'm glad you're at least back to nearly where you used to be. I know what it's like to have an old familiar workflow interrupted, but usually MOTU has been good about not letting that happen.

Meanwhile, I wish you'd try that little method I told you about. It's so easy it just might make you forget your old familiar workflow! No copying/pasting is necessary. When you click on the client's file in the Save dialog, it inserts its name into the Save field. Your DP file will be saved with the very same name as the client's script. The only difference is the suffix that identifies it as a DP file. You don't have to add that; it does.

1) Click Save-As
2) Click the client's file name
3) Click OK

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csiaudio wrote:When in DP if you hit 'Command+N' for a New Project it won't allow you to paste any thing into the Dialog window :( However if you select the 'New' button in the DP Project Start Up Window it will allow you to paste something into the Dialog window.
That makes absolutely no sense to me either, but I just tested it and got the same results. I guess I just haven't been using the keyboard shortcut and never noticed it. Great troubleshooting, man! I would definitely submit a TechLink on this.

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csiaudio wrote:Well even though I updated to 10.11.6 and a clean install of DP 9.1 I believe I found the issue, so I'll post it here just in case anyone else experiences this.

When in DP if you hit 'Command+N' for a New Project it won't allow you to paste any thing into the Dialog window :( However if you select the 'New' button in the DP Project Start Up Window it will allow you to paste something into the Dialog window.

Which obviously this makes absolutely NO sense what so ever but at least this is a very workable solution for me.

So thanks for everyone's input and of course MIDI Life Crisis' sarcasm because what would we do without him chiming in on every post, right!?
The cmd-N difference appears here too.

Please report that to Motu. I wouldn't say it's 'weird' (since I know what's occurring), but it is silly.
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Robert Randolph wrote:(since I know what's occurring), but it is silly.
And you're just gonna leave us haninging? :shock:
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Phil O wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:(since I know what's occurring), but it is silly.
And you're just gonna leave us haninging? :shock:
Ok, slightly non-technical explanation.

The cmd-n version seems to be invoked after some other routines run that don't run when you hit 'new project'. It appears that the cmd-n dialog has a different sender (or parent) than the 'New Project' version. Essentially the main menu is no longer linked to the file dialog because of 'other stuff happening'.

If you hit cmd-v or cmd-a with the 'cmd-n dialog', watch the menus. You'll see the edit menu flash. The command is being dispatched elsewhere (due to some panel ownership mishap) and in turn not getting to the dialog.

Obviously this is speculation (and I could be wrong obviously), but I've encountered this exact issue in my own code and this was the only cause I found, or that I found anyone else had encountered at the time.
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Interesting. I did report this to MOTU and the already confirmed the issue and said they will address it in the next update.

Thanks for everyone's help - at least I now have a workable solution!!
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Robert Randolph wrote:
Phil O wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:(since I know what's occurring), but it is silly.
And you're just gonna leave us haninging? :shock:
Ok, slightly non-technical explanation...
Thanks man. Now I can sleep at night. 8)
csiaudio wrote:Interesting. I did report this to MOTU and the already confirmed the issue and said they will address it in the next update.
Good to know. I always feel better when MOTU confirms a bug, cuz if they can't reproduce it, they can't fix it. Just sayin'.
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