DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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Just updated to 9.1 and I noticed when I play piano with sustain pedal it seems to work fine...but when I press record, the sustain pedal stops working. When I play back the recording, sustain pedal can be heard. Very annoying because I can't hear the sustain pedal working during recording~ Anybody else have this problem?

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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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Working fine here. Have you tried rebooting the machine?
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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I just tried rebooting...It seems to work on the very first pass...then after that, it goes right back to the problem again~

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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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Could the sustain be assigned to a MIDI Master?
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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What controller/keyboard are you using?

What brand/model of sustain pedal are you using?

This sounds like a hardware problem to me. It could be as simple as your sustain pedal
has a short. OR, you need to reverse the pedal's polarity (many have a little switch on the bottom
of the pedal, just move it to the other position, and then close your project and reboot your controller keyboard.)
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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Could the sustain pedal behavior be something to do with the new pre-gen feature. Looks like pre-gen can no longer be turned off. Closed VIs revert to pre-gen. ...i think that's what the what's-new doc says.

Do you get the same behavior if the VI's window is open?
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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David Polich wrote:What controller/keyboard are you using?

What brand/model of sustain pedal are you using?

This sounds like a hardware problem to me. It could be as simple as your sustain pedal
has a short. OR, you need to reverse the pedal's polarity (many have a little switch on the bottom
of the pedal, just move it to the other position, and then close your project and reboot your controller keyboard.)
I'm using M-Audio Oxygen61 with an M-Audio sustain pedal~ They both work perfectly fine when I'm not recording...It's only when I push the record button, the sustain pedal cannot be heard...but the MIDI data is still recorded~ However, it seems to work fine while in Overdub Record mode~ but the problem persists in normal record mode~ Also, everything was working fine in 9.02 before I updated to 9.1~ This is very annoying~

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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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I had not seen this thread, but please check out my thread over here from just installing DP 9.1...

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62126

Same exact problem with different gear and Mac.
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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JSmith1234567 wrote:I had not seen this thread, but please check out my thread over here from just installing DP 9.1...

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62126

Same exact problem with different gear and Mac.
Definitely seems like the same problem~ I reverted to 9.02 for now until someone can figure out a solution~

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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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I haven't had time to investigate this completely, and I duplicated the problem exactly once, but does anyone know if it makes any difference if the plug is in pre-gen or not? Also, what plug are you using? When I encountered this I was using Kontakt in pre-gen mode.

EDIT-well apparently pre-gen mode does not exist for live playing the way I understand it, now, but I'm getting over my head with some of the technical details.
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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cuttime wrote:I haven't had time to investigate this completely, and I duplicated the problem exactly once, but does anyone know if it makes any difference if the plug is in pre-gen or not? Also, what plug are you using? When I encountered this I was using Kontakt in pre-gen mode.
Pre-gen can't be turned off in 9.1.
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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dix wrote:Pre-gen can't be turned off in 9.1.
So how could this possibly work with a plug played in real time?
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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cuttime wrote:
dix wrote:Pre-gen can't be turned off in 9.1.
So how could this possibly work with a plug played in real time?
Right. I don't know. Pre-gen is working under the hood in ways that no one around here seems to understand.
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Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording

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As I mentioned earlier it does seem to work while it's in Overdub Record mode for some reason...

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jacey714 wrote:Just updated to 9.1 and I noticed when I play piano with sustain pedal it seems to work fine...but when I press record, the sustain pedal stops working. When I play back the recording, sustain pedal can be heard. Very annoying because I can't hear the sustain pedal working during recording~ Anybody else have this problem?

J

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I have had this problem as well. Had to go back to 9.02 to continue working on my project. MBP 15" retina, MOTU UltraLite MK3, Kurzweil PC3 for a controller.
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