Take number snafu

[Phil O]

Was recording some drum takes yesterday and ran into a strange one. Close mic'd drums with 6 mono tracks all grouped. I was recording with cycle record (memory cycle and overdub selected). Six takes.
All tracks except #2 had the following take numbers:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (as expected)
Track #2 had the following.
1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4
What the heck?
I renamed the takes appropriately and moved on. Later in the day it did it again on another project file, this time on track #5.

I think this may be the first time I've used this feature since updating to 9.02. Bug? Dunno. Anyone else seen this sort of thing?

Have submitted a tech link.

Phil

[Shooshie]

Weird. It's almost as if, starting on take 2, it decided to record mono channels to stereo tracks. If you look at take 2 of track 2, does it still show up as mono? (I'm sure it does. I'm just inventing possibilities with almost no chance of existing.) I have no explanation of that. I wonder if MOTU would benefit from studying that file.

Shoosh

[Phil O]

Yeah, all mono tracks. With the holiday weekend, it will probably be a while before I hear from MOTU. I'll post back when I hear from them. Happy 4th!!

Philippe

[EMRR]

3, 3, 3; that's a new one. I get weird results if I've deleted takes, or add a track to a group that already has multiple takes, but never a sequential series. I think I've seen multiple 3's if and when I deleted takes 1 and 2, leaving 3 and 4, the next take might get called 3 again.

[Shooshie]

3, 3, 3; that's a new one. I get weird results if I've deleted takes, or add a track to a group that already has multiple takes, but never a sequential series. I think I've seen multiple 3's if and when I deleted takes 1 and 2, leaving 3 and 4, the next take might get called 3 again.

Yes, I see that one periodically. I guess if you recorded takes and deleted them, then recorded more, deleting certain ones in a certain sequence, it could cause what Phil described. Not sure if he did anything like that, but it's one explanation.

[Guitar Gaz]

I have noticed that you could manually rename takes to the same name and there is no blockage that stops you doing this - so it doesn't surprise me that automatic new takes sometimes have idiosyncratic numbering. I am not bothered as long my takes actually record (and I usually rename with some identity as to quality and discard the non keepers asap). But this could be a symptom of the bug.

[EMRR]

Yes....I usually manual renumber at some point.

[Phil O]

...Not sure if he did anything like that, but it's one explanation.

No, that wasn't the case. The strangest part is that all tracks were grouped and all but one named sequentially. I should have saved a copy of the file, but the takes have since been renamed and comped, etc. So if MOTU wants the file, they'll have to dig way back in history to locate the occurrence (if it's even still there). Sometimes work takes precedence over troubleshooting.

Philippe

[Robert Randolph]

So I've recorded about 100 6-track takes now trying to make this happen. New projects, existing projects and a few other things.

I can only seem to make it happen if I change the name of a soundbite or track, in which case I'm not sure if you could consider it a bug?

Any other clues maybe?

[Phil O]

Got a response from MOTU which basically said this sounded like a unique case and recommended deleting preferences and a reinstall of DP. I'll be doing that some time today. If they've never heard of this before and no one here has confirmed this, I'm fairly confident that the problem is at my end. I still have about nine songs to do, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to test the re-install. I will post the results when I get there.

Thanks to all for your responses.

Phil

[kassonica]

Got a response from MOTU which basically said this sounded like a unique case and recommended deleting preferences and a reinstall of DP. I'll be doing that some time today. If they've never heard of this before and no one here has confirmed this, I'm fairly confident that the problem is at my end. I still have about nine songs to do, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to test the re-install. I will post the results when I get there.

Thanks to all for your responses.

Phil

It's actually happened to me, Also sometimes the last soundfile is placed in the wrong place with the wrong time stamp....

Its why I rarely ever use that feature...

PS it's happened on DP 6 and 7...

I haven't tried 9 as I'm still waiting on the update to install it at the studio.........Taps foot

[Phil O]

Swell.

Well I'll just have to see what happens.

Thanks K.

[kassonica]

Swell.

Well I'll just have to see what happens.

Thanks K.

Interesting that you are the only other person I've heard that has it.

DO you use a FW or USB interface by any chance?

[Phil O]

FW on an Apogee Rosetta 800.

[Shooshie]

I'd be very interested to know if clearing the prefs is a solution for that. They've given me that reply to some tech-links, and I know it's NOT the answer for those particular questions, so I get the feeling that "clear preferences" is one of those catch-all answers like "be sure your unit is plugged in," or "repair permissions," or "reset the PRAM." (or NVRAM, these days) I actually got that response from Apple when I called yesterday about replacing the GPU. Guy wanted me to do the PRAM routine, but I had to remind him that I was sitting there holding the GPU in my hand, and there weren't going to be any PRAM blasts until I got that thing put back together. He referred me to two local private contractors who were equally helpful, which is to say, not at all. Thank goodness for Amazon. (I ordered the GPU, got it today and put it in. End of story.

So, if clearing the preferences actually helps, I'd like to know.

Shooshie