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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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Currently, in DP9, BTD does not get all (any of?) the crossfades, unless someone has found a workaround to trick it into doing so. There may be other problems as well, such as note dropouts or something. It used to be dead-on accurate. Not now.

We're hoping for a fix in 9.1. MOTU is aware of the problem.

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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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kassonica wrote:
David Polich wrote:Real-time mixdown is your friend. Do you know how to do that? It's way more reliable than
Bounce-to-Disk.
I've always find B.T.D extremely reliable
Me too, Kass. Sample-accurate, as a matter of fact -- every single time! :unicorn: :koolaid:
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Tritonemusic wrote:
kassonica wrote:
David Polich wrote:Real-time mixdown is your friend. Do you know how to do that? It's way more reliable than
Bounce-to-Disk.
I've always find B.T.D extremely reliable
Me too, Kass. Sample-accurate, as a matter of fact -- every single time! :unicorn: :koolaid:
Yeah, but you're back on DP 7.24 — a great version, if your signature is correct. In DP9, you would find it otherwise if you've got fades.

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David Polich wrote:Real-time mixdown is your friend. Do you know how to do that? It's way more reliable than
Bounce-to-Disk.
I've been doing real time mixes for the past 4-5 years. Maybe I'm just "old school" but it is my preference!

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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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Shooshie wrote:
Tritonemusic wrote:
kassonica wrote:
I've always find B.T.D extremely reliable
Me too, Kass. Sample-accurate, as a matter of fact -- every single time! :unicorn: :koolaid:
Yeah, but you're back on DP 7.24 — a great version, if your signature is correct. In DP9, you would find it otherwise if you've got fades.

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I wasn't aware that this was one of the issues in DP9....

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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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kassonica wrote:
Shooshie wrote:Yeah, but you're back on DP 7.24 — a great version, if your signature is correct. In DP9, you would find it otherwise if you've got fades.

Shooshie
I wasn't aware that this was one of the issues in DP9....

:(
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I'm just going to wait to get get 9 till they sort out all these issues...

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Shooshie wrote:Currently, in DP9, BTD does not get all (any of?) the crossfades, unless someone has found a workaround to trick it into doing so. There may be other problems as well, such as note dropouts or something. It used to be dead-on accurate. Not now.

We're hoping for a fix in 9.1. MOTU is aware of the problem.

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Timeline wrote:Anyone know when fixes are coming for 9? I was thinking about finally updating but it seems its not all worked out with the latest Mac OS. 10.11.4.
Fixes would come with the next version and as usual, only MOTU knows when that will be.
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kassonica wrote:I'm just going to wait to get get 9 till they sort out all these issues...

:banghead:
I've gotten around it by recording real-time to another track. Then the resulting soundbite can be bounced as an MP3 or whatever. It's a pain in the you-know-what, but at least it's doable. It's only fades that get dropped, as far as I know. A simple soundbite will give you no trouble.

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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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MOTU support say they have successfully used the BTD command, so I'll try it again. I was going to work around the problem by playing the original tracks with the plugins inserted out of my 112D's AES or ADAT out into my Roland VS2480, then drag the audio phrases to where I need them.
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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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wilkinsi wrote:MOTU support say they have successfully used the BTD command...
That statement needs clarity.
I can successfully use the BTD command, too. But not if I have track fades and crossfades in the mix.
It will still bounce to disk, but it does not use the fades.
This never happened to me before DP9.
It was my understanding that MOTU knew about this and was fixing it. If they are saying the above, that's bad news. That means they are denying there is a problem, or they have not yet been convinced of its existence. I was certain that they knew about it. Now I don't know. Crap. I guess I'll call them tomorrow and try to get the whole story.

Could someone else chime in here and help me out? Am I the only one who has experienced this? Is this a real bug or just some anomaly on my system? I could have sworn I've seen threads about this in the recent past.

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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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Sh...

When you bounce do you get pops where some crossfades used to be in 9? I think i have heard this in 8 too but I blame it on insufficient CPU capability for the size of project I'm bouncing. Is that wrong?

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Re: No audio after using DP9 bounce

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If the fades were covering pops, as in a junction between soundbites, then yes, you'd hear pops. Or rather, you'd hear the lack of fades. It's as if the bounce "playback" isn't programmed to run the fades. They're just irrelevant during the bounce.

I'm sure it's just a programming oversight, as in there's a flag that needs to be set or something like that. Someone just forgot to turn it back on after working on it, or... who knows what?

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Right. got it. Thnx
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