Can't install MachFive 2 for DP 9.02 under OS 10.11.03

[Gone To Lunch]

I am failing to install my old MachFive 2 on my new MacPro OS 10.11.3. I get the message

“MachFive2 requires installed Interlock Extensions version 5.5.1 or higher. Please be sure to install (these) in the Interlock Extensions Installer folder before running MachFive 2.”

Then ‘installation was successful’.

MachFive 2 does show up as licensed in in my iLok license manager, on a 1st gen iLok, but it does not show up in the plugins list in my DP 9 ?

Is it that the MachFive 2 License need to be transferred to the 2nd Gen iLok to be compatible with OS 10.11.3 ?

[mikehalloran]

No. An iLok 1 is compatible as long as you have the current iLok License Manager installed.

Try srarting up DP 9 in 32bit and see if MV2 shows up. I don't know if it will but it's the first thing to check. I am remembering that MV2 is not 64bit compatible—you may have to update to MV3.2.1.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Sounds like MH nailed it. 32 bit, for sure.

[Gone To Lunch]

Try srarting up DP 9 in 32bit and see if MV2 shows up. I don't know if it will but it's the first thing to check. I am remembering that MV2 is not 64bit compatible—you may have to update to MV3.2.1.

On start up DP 9 says 64 bit mode - where/how do I switch it ?

[Shooshie]

I didn't think you could still do that (open DP9 in 32 bit mode), but I just checked the Get Info box in the Finder, and sure enough it's still there. Look for a box that says "Open in 32 bit mode."

Shooshie

[Gone To Lunch]

I just tried opening DP 9 in 32 bit mode and the MF2 appeared in the plugins list, but not available as an option in the insert of an instrumental track.

MF2 does not show up at all in 64 bit mode.

So I guess I will just have to upgrade to MF3

[Basstrup]

So I guess I will just have to upgrade to MF3

Depending on what you are looking for you might be better off "upgrading" to Falcon - sorry to say.

[Gone To Lunch]

Depending on what you are looking for you might be better off "upgrading" to Falcon - sorry to say.

I had a look at Falcon, thanks for the tip. The reason I like MachFive is the library that comes with it - I have never actually used the sampler, I am not really into that sort of thing.

For £139 I can upgrade to MF3 which, as far as I can see, which may not be far enough, is a lot cheaper than buying separate libraries for keyboards, guitars etc ?

Or am I missing something here ?

[mikehalloran]

MV3 can load many sample types that Falcon cannot including EXS24 (MainStage and Logic Pro). As you have seen, it also comes with a large number of libraries from UVI that you would pay extra for otherwise.

In fact, MainStage 3 ($29.95 from Apple) is a heck of an add-on pack to MachFive 3 for very little money. It comes with over 13G of samples plus Alchemy, another powerful synth of its own. It's a live performance tool otherwise instead of a DAW like Logic.
http://www.apple.com/mainstage/plugins-and-sounds/
These same libraries and Alchemy come with Logic Pro X ($199.99 from Apple).
http://www.apple.com/logic-pro/

The down side is that MV3 is showing its age. It cannot run some of the latest UVI libraries—though the free UVI player can. For example, UVI's older RetroOrgans runs fine in MV3 but the newer RetroOrgans Suite does not.

Falcon runs all the latest UVI libraries but cannot host EXS24 nor many other file types. Neither does it come with as many libraries. It does come with a voucher for $100 to purchase more. It's synth is somewhat like MV3 on steroids—if you were to use it.

Both include IRCAM stretch, still the best tool for manipulating time and pitch of your samples and DP tracks.

I'm one of those who finds Falcon interesting but saw no reason to purchase it. MachFive 3.2.1 combined with the free UVI player does what I need. I don't use the synth either.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Mach5 ver 3 is a great product. F***** is practically identical but much newer, which is no guarantee of product longevity, by the way. I use M53 every day and if it was never updated again it would be just as great. Frankly, it's annoying to see [the same] people "recommending" F***** over Mach Five in the MOTUnation forums, over and over again.

The question is about Mach 5, and not an agenda on what else you happen to like better... sorry to say.

[Gone To Lunch]

Thank you all once again for your advice and comments.

I have decided to buy the MF 3 upgrade as I think the accompanying libraries are the best value for my money, and I know and trust the sounds.

Perhaps one day I may try and learn how the other bits work, perhaps not...

[MIDI Life Crisis]

You won't regret it. It's amazing.

[FMiguelez]

Mach5 ver 3 is a great product. F***** is practically identical but much newer, which is no guarantee of product longevity, by the way. I use M53 every day and if it was never updated again it would be just as great. Frankly, it's annoying to see [the sane] people "recommending" F***** in the MOTUnation forums for ver and over again.

The question is about Mach 5, and not an agenda in what else you happen to like better... sorry to say.

Agreed. MachFive 3 really rocks when it works.

Since I trashed its preferences, along with DP's and VE pro's, MF has been much better.
I use it every day too, especially now that I'm writing a couple of music libraries. It still crashes, but much less often. However, I'd LOVE to see MachFive 4 soon! That would be sweet!

[James Steele]

Mach5 ver 3 is a great product. F***** is practically identical but much newer, which is no guarantee of product longevity, by the way. I use M53 every day and if it was never updated again it would be just as great. Frankly, it's annoying to see [the same] people "recommending" F***** over Mach Five in the MOTUnation forums, over and over again.

The question is about Mach 5, and not an agenda on what else you happen to like better... sorry to say.

Well, if M52 is end of life, than a product also made by UVI is not an outlandish suggestion. Personally, I avoid M53 these days because it would cause crashes for me and the report would indicate a UVI volume load error, etc. Removing M53 from certain projects eliminated issues for me. MOTU has been mum about whether there would be any maintenance updates to M53. I do know that it does have some advantages over Falcon as Mike H. pointed out.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Interesting. I use it the most of any VI. Truly my go to these days. Some bugaboo in every system I suppose. I can't run Waves products without major headaches. Go reconfigure.