DP9 Volume bug while using MachFive3 and Kontakt5

[hansen]

Dp 9 automatically ”normalize” the volume set in all internal channels in my Machfive3 and Kontakt 5 while playback. Very annoying! Any solutions to this problem? or its it a bug that would be remedied?

[stubbsonic]

Not sure if this is your issue, but there is a setting in Kontakt 5 that prevents DP from resetting the volume every time you hit play.

On my rig, I have to click the wrench on each instrument, then click on the "Instrument Options" button on the upper left. Open the Controller tab on the left and tick the:
"Accept standard controllers for volume and pan" box.

[hansen]

Thanx dear stubbsonic a lot for your advice and taking your time! Your advice worked on Kontakt 5 but unfortunately i can´t find similar option on the MachFive5 which is strange due to the fact that this very software sampler is a product of the house! I also checked - with no result - the DP preferences as well. Using every DP-version since the ancient days of 2.7 I have never met this annoying issue before! Neither have i encountered this problem using Logic X or Pro Tools 11! If this issue is a new default, it is a giant step backwards since checking and unchecking every Kontakt instrument and with no control over MachFive it interferes with the workflow in a most unnecessarily way. I reinstalled my DP 8.07 since i have some urgent work to do.

[stubbsonic]

I guess you could try controlling the Machfive volumes using the sliders on the MIDI tracks?

Try searching the forums, or posting your question on the MachFive section.

[bayswater]

Does it happen if you set the initial levels and take an automation snapshot (and have event chasing turned on)?

[cuttime]

If by "normalize" you mean the problem mentioned in this thread:
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=60103
"Only" is the only way to go, as I had this exact same problem with Kontakt, and this fixed my problem.

[larrytheo]

I think I am having the same problem, though it does not always reset to 0. Here are my notes:

- create a new MIDI track and assign it to play MachFive3 channel 1.
- press Play.
- Part volume for the part assigned to channel 1 gets reset immediately, usually to full on (+6 dB).
- Automation is disabled on the track and on MachFive3
- Checking the Event list for the track shows no events.
- Disabling the MIDI track stops this behavior.

I've searched the DP and MachFive3 manuals and found nothing about setting an initial volume, though the symptoms would indicate this as a possible cause. One weird thing is that, during my tests to try and figure out what was going on, I set the part volume to a different value (around -8.63 dB), and then the volume started getting reset to that. Unfortunately, I was not able to isolate the behavior that caused this, and since then it has consistently reset the volume to +6 dB.

I'm at a loss. Suggestions?

MacPro 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5
OS X 10.10.4
DP 9.01
MachFive3 3.2.1

[Kurt Cowling]

Set the volume of MIDI tracks using the fader in DP's mixer window, not in the VI. Note that I'm referring to the fader for each MIDI track, not the fader for the instrument track.

[magicd]

In DP9, the Event Chasing preference has been changed to enable volume and pan to be sent from the mixer each time you press play. This happens whether you have volume and pan automation in the track or not. If you want to mix your VI instruments from within the VI, go to the DP Setup menu>Event Chasing, and disable CC#7 (volume) and CC#10 (Pan).

Dave

[Tonio]

If by "normalize" you mean the problem mentioned in this thread:
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=60103
"Only" is the only way to go, as I had this exact same problem with Kontakt, and this fixed my problem.

thanks for that!

[larrytheo]

thanks, Kurt and magicd! As usual, it was something dumb: I didn't realize that DP's faders controlled part volumes in MachFive. Duh.

Anyway, once I realized that from your posts, it was just a matter of correlating MIDI 0-127 to MachFive part volumes in dBs. For those care, MIDI 107 sets a MachFive part of -0.43 dB, which is as close to 0 dB and you can get with that MIDI resolution.

This has been pissing me off for a while, enough that I don't really care how stupid I was not to have figured it out before. Now I know.

Larry

[retrograde]

MagicD: Of all the many threads on this issue across the internet, yours is the first I saw pointing out the event chaser change. Thanks much!

Geoff

[magnas]

I just bought DP9... and I had the same problem with Kontakt5 on all my old DP8 project.

I solved the problem on a big project that I'm using in these days, in Automation Setup, then choosing "Only" in "Enable Atuomatic Types"... doing on ALL MIDI TRACKS.

I spent a lot of time... and I've no time for doing the same on all my old projects.

Do you have a better solution for solve this problem??? Is it possible apply this setting on all MIDI traks at the same time??

[magnas]

I wrote directly to MOTU help desk... they replied me in this way:

You can also try Setup > Event Chasing > Clear (at the bottom)

Well... I tried, and It's working. For sure a faster way