Elemental Audio RIP (RESOLVED)

[Phil O]

I've been amazed that I've been using the original Inspector XL Elemental Audio Plug-ins for so long, and they still work (until now). Recently I've had them working under 32 Lives. I think it's a testament to how well that code must have been written. With DP 9 and OS 10.10.4, however, Elemental is crash city.

Oh well, I guess I got my money's worth. Some of the stuff from Melda looks pretty good! Other suggestions welcomed.

Phil

[mikehalloran]

I wouldn't be so sure. I would try reinstalling after going to System Preferences/Security & Privacy and checking Allow apps downloaded from Anywhere.

Many older programs need to have that reset to install properly on Yosemite. Since 10.10.3, it reverts automatically after 30 days to the default. You can also revert manually after the install.

[Phil O]

Can't re-install. The installer hasn't worked since OS 9 (I think). The only reason it's lasted this long is I've never done a fresh install of the OS - just updated (on this machine anyway).

Phil

[bayswater]

Can't re-install. The installer hasn't worked since OS 9 (I think). The only reason it's lasted this long is I've never done a fresh install of the OS - just updated (on this machine anyway).

Phil

It worked on earlier versions of OS X. Maybe up to 10.6?

[bayswater]

Many older programs need to have that reset to install properly on Yosemite. Since 10.10.3, it reverts automatically after 30 days to the default. You can also revert manually after the install.

I had this set to "Apple and signed apps", and it didn't change as I updated Y (so far, up to 10.10.4). I'm in the habit of opening installers from the right click menu to bypass the security.

But thanks for the note about it reverting after 30 days. I don't think it ought to be able to do that if the security preferences are locked. If Apple can come up with code that changes your locked security preferences, then I'd guess most hackers will figure it out too. I hope there will be a terminal command to turn this off.

[mikehalloran]

The middle position is the default. Before 10.3, changing the setting was permanent, now it reverts after 30 days.

Many older apps work well but the installers were written before the Apple Toolkit procedures that trigger the messages to allow or not allow. These installers will not work properly unless the security setting is changed in advance. The only thing the user knows is that the software doesn't work.

[Phil O]

Can't re-install. The installer hasn't worked since OS 9 (I think). The only reason it's lasted this long is I've never done a fresh install of the OS - just updated (on this machine anyway).

Phil

It worked on earlier versions of OS X. Maybe up to 10.6?

I'm pretty sure it was earlier than that. The installer was PowerPC (not fat).

Phil

[bayswater]

Can't re-install. The installer hasn't worked since OS 9 (I think). The only reason it's lasted this long is I've never done a fresh install of the OS - just updated (on this machine anyway).

Phil

It worked on earlier versions of OS X. Maybe up to 10.6?

I'm pretty sure it was earlier than that. The installer was PowerPC (not fat).

Phil

OK, but I thought Rosetta dealt with that up to 10.6.8.

[Phil O]

Oooo! I had forgotten about Rosetta. I wonder if that's installed on that machine. Thanks for the reminder. I'll check it.

I wonder if I can boot one machine in target mode and the other in 10.6.8 and install that way. Worth a try.

Thanks again, bayswater, for the feedback!

Phil

[Phil O]

After inspection of crash logs, I'm happy to say the the issue was one of font conflicts. Upon resolving the conflicts in FontBook all of my 32 bit plugins (using 32Lives) now work as expected, including those from Elemental Audio.

Phil

[wvandyck]

Encouraging news!
Persistence pays off.

I started off with EAS, then upgraded to RND despite all the controversy.
The fact that people still keep using them speaks to their quality build.

[James Steele]

Encouraging news!
Persistence pays off.

I started off with EAS, then upgraded to RND despite all the controversy.
The fact that people still keep using them speaks to their quality build.

Absolutely. I upgraded to RND primarily to get the iLok CP method, as I prefer it over disk or machine authorization.

[bayswater]

To those who can still get the Elemental plugs to work, how well do they stack up to other plugins you have? I remember them being excellent, but my comparison point for EA was some other pretty basic EQ and compression plugins I had at the time, a long time ago.

I've assumed it's not worth the effort to try to get them working (I have all of them), but maybe you think otherwise?

[wvandyck]

To those who can still get the Elemental plugs to work, how well do they stack up to other plugins you have? I remember them being excellent, but my comparison point for EA was some other pretty basic EQ and compression plugins I had at the time, a long time ago.

I've assumed it's not worth the effort to try to get them working (I have all of them), but maybe you think otherwise?

Hard to say.

InspectorXL was in constant use back in the day.
Same with Finis.
Neodynium was a cool concept that I had difficulty mastering.
The match eq functionality of Firium was impressive. Now I use Voxengo Curve EQ or Match EQ.
Equim was a transparent EQ loaded with parameters.

For some strange reason, I keep getting the missing PACE extensions message. Is that even still available?
All are Resurrected and licenses are synchronized in the iLok Manager 2.5.0. Maybe there's incompatibility with OSX 10.10.4.

All are working on the old Mac Pro 1,1.

[bayswater]

or some strange reason, I keep getting the missing PACE extensions message. Is that even still available?
All are Resurrected and licenses are synchronized in the iLok Manager 2.5.0. Maybe there's incompatibility with OSX 10.10.4.

All are working on the old Mac Pro 1,1.

Sounds like you have the RND versions. I didn't update after Elemental went under.