DP 9 impressions and issues thread

[woodyreed]

Waves does it. Yes, they are hated at times for it, but they also have the best plugs in the world...and tons of them too.

That's highly debatable, but I get your point. 15 years ago I would have agreed. Not today. I rarely use anything from WAVES. L2 being the exception.

I really think there is a lot more going on under the hood in 9. It feels much more solid. MX4 is pretty cool as is the 1176. But I don't think either are up to the standards of other plugs and synths I have. I'll gladly pay $199 though to keep them in the game. 9 is for sure an upgrade.

[bayswater]

I'm kind of disappointed in the Themes in DP9. I was hoping we would have several more new ones, or maybe even a simple user interface to easily tweak them.

Instead we got a total of one new theme, "Nine", which is dark and rather utilitarian for my taste.. took me 5 seconds to realize I still like "Eight" better.

It would be interesting to take a poll and see how many members are disappointed with 9.

MOTU was pretty transparent with this update. They presented all the major changes to be included in DP 9. They demoed them in a dog and pony at NAMM, and published the videos. That presentation was largely about guitar and bass stuff -- a pretty good clue about what to expect.

There were questions about what else was included and the answer was pretty clear -- all the stuff you'd put on the box was announced or demoed -- the rest is misc bug fixes and minor workflow changes. There were a few unsubstantiated rumours about additions never mentioned by MOTU (e.g. including Mach Five).

They could have been a little more up front about dropping the printed manual, but I'm already over that. There are bugs, but what .00 release doesn't have a load of bugs? Compared to Logic 10.0.0, it's pretty much big free.

If anyone thinks this update is not worth $200, they could have figured that out before they bought it. Looking at posts over that week or two, a lot of people said just that, and didn't update.

I'm happy with it, but
1) I'd like to hear more from Windows users -- has MOTU addressed the issues left over from 8? Is it ready for prime time?
2) Guitar and bass stuff is good, but enough is enough. Maybe move on to drums and percussion. Logic has left DP in the dust on drums.

[musicman691]

I got back into DP-land based on the announcement of DP9 at NAMM 2015. MX4 for me is a good add-on (especially once they get it fixed to retain MIDI control learn). Yes I am a bit of a synth guy, but also symphonic instruments AND guitar. I like to cross-polinate plugins with uses one wouldn't normally use them for. For instance taking solo violin and running it through guitar plugins for that Jon Luc Ponty sound - that's huge for me. So the new 'guitar' plugins are worth it for me. I don't find acoustic sounds so precious that they can't take some treatment from non-traditional acoustic effects. Remember that Jon Lord did NOT use a Leslie on his Hammond organ - it was a guitar combo amp.

[musicman691]

I'm happy with it, but

2) Guitar and bass stuff is good, but enough is enough. Maybe move on to drums and percussion. Logic has left DP in the dust on drums.

Personally other than for making beatz daw drum stuff sucks. I'd rather use something like fxpansion BFD3 or Slate drums or Superior Drums for my drum work.

[bayswater]

I'm happy with it, but

2) Guitar and bass stuff is good, but enough is enough. Maybe move on to drums and percussion. Logic has left DP in the dust on drums.

Personally other than for making beatz daw drum stuff sucks. I'd rather use something like fxpansion BFD3 or Slate drums or Superior Drums for my drum work.

I'm not talking about the drum sounds in Logic; rather the editing functions for MIDI Drum tracks, compared to the DP drum editor.

[musicman691]

I'm not talking about the drum sounds in Logic; rather the editing functions for MIDI Drum tracks, compared to the DP drum editor.

Okay - that's clearer. Thought you were talking about the drum sounds themselves. After years of dealing with ProTools and NO drum editor I'm glad to have what's in DP. What's so great about the way Logic does it versus DP?

[bayswater]

I'm not talking about the drum sounds in Logic; rather the editing functions for MIDI Drum tracks, compared to the DP drum editor.

Okay - that's clearer. Thought you were talking about the drum sounds themselves. After years of dealing with ProTools and NO drum editor I'm glad to have what's in DP. What's so great about the way Logic does it versus DP?

Simple stuff. You can have the MIDI editor only show pitches with notes, there are means of getting drum names in that are less convoluted than the DP drum editor, and there is the successor to the old hyper editor. And drum tracks have some useful macros to set up tracks you can then export as MIDI and use with other sounds.

[Killahurts]

I did not write that, for the record.

[toodamnhip]

I have found that quitting DP 9 BEFORE quitting VE Pro solves the crash on quit issue. It used to be that it was better to quit VE Pro first, and then DP. Now, it is the opposite.
Of course, Scuffham amps still ALWYS causes a crash on quit. If you are having crash on quit issues with VE Pro, try quoting DP 9 1st.

[James Steele]

I did not write that, for the record.

No you didn't. So I fixed it in the original post and edited out the bogus quote from your post.

[Killahurts]

Thanks James!

[elcappn]

I have found that quitting DP 9 BEFORE quitting VE Pro solves the crash on quit issue. It used to be that it was better to quit VE Pro first, and then DP. Now, it is the opposite.
Of course, Scuffham amps still ALWYS causes a crash on quit. If you are having crash on quit issues with VE Pro, try quoting DP 9 1st.

The latest update to Scuffham fixed the crash on quit issue.

[toodamnhip]

I have found that quitting DP 9 BEFORE quitting VE Pro solves the crash on quit issue. It used to be that it was better to quit VE Pro first, and then DP. Now, it is the opposite.
Of course, Scuffham amps still ALWYS causes a crash on quit. If you are having crash on quit issues with VE Pro, try quoting DP 9 1st.

The latest update to Scuffham fixed the crash on quit issue.

Not for me it didn’t. AndI have seen several others say the issue still exists.

[elcappn]

I have found that quitting DP 9 BEFORE quitting VE Pro solves the crash on quit issue. It used to be that it was better to quit VE Pro first, and then DP. Now, it is the opposite.
Of course, Scuffham amps still ALWYS causes a crash on quit. If you are having crash on quit issues with VE Pro, try quoting DP 9 1st.

The latest update to Scuffham fixed the crash on quit issue.

Not for me it didn’t. AndI have seen several others say the issue still exists.

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being.

[elcappn]

I have found that quitting DP 9 BEFORE quitting VE Pro solves the crash on quit issue. It used to be that it was better to quit VE Pro first, and then DP. Now, it is the opposite.
Of course, Scuffham amps still ALWYS causes a crash on quit. If you are having crash on quit issues with VE Pro, try quoting DP 9 1st.

The latest update to Scuffham fixed the crash on quit issue.

Not for me it didn’t. AndI have seen several others say the issue still exists.

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being.