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Reliable crash in DP 8.07 and mixing board....

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Can't seem find the cause of why DP is crashing every time I call up the mixing board. The crashes are ALWAYS in projects that have a few VIs. Doesn't seem tomatoes which VIs. MachFive-3, Korg Legacy, Contact, Aria, UVI Workstation. They all seem to crash DP, and a lot!

I would like to "blame" Yosemite, but it seems DP is due for an update not that the OS is somewhat settled in a bit.

No?
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Re: Reliable crash in DP 8.07 and mixing board....

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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Can't seem find the cause of why DP is crashing every time I call up the mixing board. The crashes are ALWAYS in projects that have a few VIs. Doesn't seem tomatoes which VIs. MachFive-3, Korg Legacy, Contact, Aria, UVI Workstation. They all seem to crash DP, and a lot!

I would like to "blame" Yosemite, but it seems DP is due for an update not that the OS is somewhat settled in a bit.

No?
You say tomatoes
  • I say tomatters
You say potatoes
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Tomatoes
  • Tomatters
Potatoes
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Let's turn the autumn-fill spelunker off.

Is it a song yet? I haven't seen the particular problem with the crashing mixing board yet, but I've been seeing isolated problems that do concern me. For instance, a file I've been using for examples in DP (lots of pictures posted in this forum are from that file) suddenly won't open, after using it reliably almost every week, if not every day for the past 9 years. Nor will any of the myriad versions of it that I've saved, at least back to 2008. So, I moved one out of its project folder, and it opens immediately.

You might try loading your file into a different project and see if it still crashes. If it's happening to all files, you might try eliminating half the VIs for a while, seeing if it crashes. If not, then add half the remaining VIs. It could be one VI that just happens to be common to each file, or maybe TWO VIs, either of which will crash it. If you can find some VIs that do not crash it, then you may see something in common between those that do.

For example, what if either Mach Five or UVI Workstation will crash it? They have a common engine and many common features. THAT could be what's causing it, and if either one is loaded, it may crash. Or... what if it only crashes when both of them are present, together? Their common engines could be clashing because of a version mismatch.

I just haven't had any crashes lately, so I can't pin it on DP. It's got to be something external. Or not... crashes do not have to be consistent from system to system. Well, we'll keep watching it for a while. Because it tomatters! [sorry... I just get a kick out of auto-fill spellcheck corrections.]
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Re: Reliable crash in DP 8.07 and mixing board....

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Semi-related but maybe worth a mention....

I keep getting crashes with Trash 2. 8.07, 10.9.5. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough that it feels like it's always lurking, especially when I'm going back and forth and making changes to a sequence on the fly. Unfortunate because I've grown fond of having it live on my fave Drum VI instrument tracks, really makes some dramatic or subtle improvements to loops and drum sounds.

Izotope's Nectar, Ozone 5 and 6 work fine with no crashes when left on busses. I also noticed the occasional crash with Alloy but don't use it as much as Trash 2 so don't know if it's still a problem. FYI.
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Also seeing crashes at launch, especially after a very long session crashes. Restarting usually helps but sometimes I need to restart several times. Fortunately with the new Mac Pro SSD drive that's now a 15 second process at most.

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Re: Reliable crash in DP 8.07 and mixing board....

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If you get crash reports, send to Apple and MOTU.

If you don't, open Console and see what is going on. Everything is time stamped and you can expand on an instance if it isn't displaying fully.

If you find the Mackie HUI drivers trying to load, reinstall DP and see if that fixes it. I recommend reinstalling DP anyway.
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Re: Reliable crash in DP 8.07 and mixing board....

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MLC, only you could use reliable and crash in the same phrase. :lol:
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Re: Reliable crash in DP 8.07 and mixing board....

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What is your buffer set at? I get reliable crashes if set below 64.
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I started having the same problem this morning in DP 9.01; on summoning the mixing board with shift-M, DP would frequently crash, especially if it was after a fast series of key commands. Did you ever find the cause? I have Kontakt running in a couple of V-Racks, but precious little else at all.
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I suspected my dual monitor setup but once I redid the pref and forced the mixer to open in the main s teen instead of the wide bar (consolidates windows) it seemed ok. I've not seen it since the 9.01 update.
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Hrmmm... ok. Thanks for the quick reply. Maybe I'll do a little troubleshooting this afternoon. Any suggestions are welcome!
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Once you get it the way you want it, create a new window set so you can call it up that way.
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