DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

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DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

Post by Stuartfox »

I couldn't find any other threads with testing results on DP and 10.10 so I thought I'd post.

Sorry if this has already been covered.

I'm testing 10.10 public beta on a MacBook Air (11-inch, Late 2010) 1.6 core 2 duo with 4GB ram.

Right now, DP is pretty much unusable. When playback is running, the GUI freezes unless you physically click and hold on a sound clip or event. And it freezes often.

When you maximise, you see the windowed and full screen version together - and it freezes.

The way 10.10 handles graphics must have tripped something up, we'll see if it works better with the next OS beta. Overall things are more sluggish on this machine than with 10.9, but that's to be expected with an early public beta.

Anyone else tried?
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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

Post by Gravity Jim »

I didn't get that far... 10.10 didn't see the driver for my audio interface because of a kext sign-in problem. Fortunately, the engineers at Tascam know right where the problem is, so it should be a relatively easy fix.

As for DP, I guess I'll learn about that later.
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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

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There's a utility called passify that let's you take all the components out of the driver install package and place them in the right locations manually. That's what you have to do with line 6 drivers for now.

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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

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That settles that! I remain a Maverick and forget "Yo, semite!" for now.
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Stuartfox wrote:There's a utility called passify that let's you take all the components out of the driver install package and place them in the right locations manually. That's what you have to do with line 6 drivers for now.
Fun!
I believe you mean "Pacifist"?
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cuttime wrote:
Stuartfox wrote:There's a utility called pacify...
If only... LOL! :lol:
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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

Post by Stuartfox »

Lol that's what I meant.

Yes, still on 10.8 for my studio mac and that's where it will stay for a while but it's good to have a non critical machine to run all the betas on and see what happens.
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Stuartfox wrote:Lol that's what I meant.

Yes, still on 10.8 for my studio mac and that's where it will stay for a while but it's good to have a non critical machine to run all the betas on and see what happens.
Stuart, I didn't know 10.8 runs on the Amiga. I'm going to dig mine out of the basement (or was it an Atari? -- so long ago).

Seriously, I can't see any reason to leave 10.8 for running DP (or Logic). My current projects have both running at once with Logic as a slave to DP. No crashes period.

The much ballyhooed increase in efficiency with 10.9 never happened on my test partition or laptop.

I suppose if you do a lot of non audio stuff on the same system, some of this beta test stuff might make sense, but I don't get it. Since when was beta testing meant to be done on a production system?
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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

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The much ballyhooed increase in efficiency with 10.9 never happened on my test partition or laptop.
With DP, I pretty much agree. For my day job, the improvement was dramatic as iOS7 and Mavericks finally achieved most of what was promised with Lion and iOS 5.
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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

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mikehalloran wrote:
The much ballyhooed increase in efficiency with 10.9 never happened on my test partition or laptop.
With DP, I pretty much agree. For my day job, the improvement was dramatic as iOS7 and Mavericks finally achieved most of what was promised with Lion and iOS 5.
Are you talking about the integration of iOS and OS X, or straight processing efficiency? I've come to rely on things like calendars and notes replicating properly across devices, but didn't think that had to do with OS efficiency as much as just working as advertised.
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Post by Bennie Sims »

DP 8.06 Wiper and counter not working on my Macbook pro!!! No biggie I don't use it for recording just testing and normal computer tasks. Thought you would like to know!!
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Post by Stuartfox »

I don't beta test on my production machine, but I do like to test the latest software on non critical machines.

For me there are reasons for wanting to go past 10.8 on my music mac, one if the big ones is multi monitor support is so much better in 10.9.

Also, I know it's good to stick with a stable setup for as long as you can, but as software and drivers become more optimized for later operating systems, and hardware demands the most efficient drivers for io ports that only the latest os deliver, you do need to have a strategy for keeping up to date IMO.
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Are you talking about the integration of iOS and OS X, or straight processing efficiency?
Yes to both.

Although I'm still looking at upgrades to my hardware, the issue is no longer compelling since Mavericks - I can put it off a bit longer. My day job is done with multiple online databases plus extensions and third party applications internal to those sites. In addition, I must access many other sites including an 800 page PDF hosted by the state of Oregon (a search takes less than a second in Chrome; 5-10 minutes in other browsers!).

I'm hoping that if Chrome ever goes to 64bit things will be even better but am not holding my breath. For my needs, it runs circles around FireFox and Safari, both in 64bit. One thing nice about Chrome is that users can place trouble tickets under Tools - sometimes, I have to wait a few hours for something to be fixed.

It's possible that adding an SSD and another monitor can put off major upgrades for another year. Waiting to see what Yosemite / iOS 8 does for me before I make that decision.

DP is running great. I do not use VIs to the extent that many do so my iMac i7 is still cutting it. I was pleasantly surprised by how much easier on the hardware DP 8 is in 64bit than 7.24.

Part of my issue is that I am now handicapped. Doing it one-handed reduces functionality by far more than one-half. Most users do not take advantage of the OS and iOS like I do. When I say that Mavericks makes my life easier, I am not being figurative. Yosemite / iOS 8 promises to expand on that. I have no interest in the beta, however - show me when it's ready.
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Re: DP 8.06 and Yosemite Beta OS X 10.10 (14A299l)

Post by waterstrum »

Hey Mike...

How cool that you are making it work with only one hand.
I think I'll stop complaining about anything right now.
Mavericks and DP 8 is great.

For all,
Just a general question...
Is Yosemite one of those big bumps that messes with DAWs, plugins, VIs, audio interfaces and general happiness?
A week or so moving over?

Or is Yosemite a smooth transition in to verdant valleys with chirping birds and bliss?

Sounds like it may be a bit of both.

Thanks
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So there's hope using just half a brain?
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