Switching Chunks and only Mixing Board switches

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Switching Chunks and only Mixing Board switches

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I am working with a project that has 18 song clips I recorded in DP that I'm mixing to press to video.

When I'm switching chunks to move to a new song, the Mixing board will move to the new song and also sometimes whatever window is open (Tracks Overview or Sequence window). When I press play, it'll play back the new chunk but the cursor won't move as it thinks it's still in the old chunk.

I have to open the new chunk in the Tracks Overview window, then go into the Sequence window, select another chunk and then go BACK and select again the chunk I want to work with ... only then will the whole session switch over to the new chunk.

Anyone else have this issue? Know any workarounds?
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Re: Switching Chunks and only Mixing Board switches

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Yes, this sometimes happens for me but I can't reliably reproduce it so I haven't been able to report it to MOTU.

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Re: Switching Chunks and only Mixing Board switches

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I remember this being an issue ever since I started using CHUNKS in DP (6)?

Anyone have a suggestion on what to do to resolve?
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leigh wrote:Yes, this sometimes happens for me but I can't reliably reproduce it so I haven't been able to report it to MOTU.

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Same irregular behavior here. I use Window Sets so I just hit the key for the WS I'm currently using or switch to another WS then back which sets me straight. I use Consolidated Windows with mixer and quick scribe windows popped out on second screen.
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I always use a popped out Mixer window.

Even when I switch chunks, and the open Tracks Window switches to the new chunk, when i switch to the SEQUENCE window, It'll still be in the old chunk. Switching back and forth to subsequent windows doesn't switch to the new chunk. I have to manually go back to the old chunk then back to the new chunk.
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I had that problem in version 6.x. I dealt with it the best I could, and for some reason in time it stopped doing that. I haven't seen that behavior now in several years.

There are some mysterious things about DP that I have never understood, and they involve how it can have widely divergent behaviors on different setups. For example, branching undo does not work for me. It keeps a linear record of undos, but no branches, no matter what I do. (trust me, it's not user error) Everyone I talk to says theirs is branching just fine. Apparently I'm the only one. Why? I have no idea. And others report specific behaviors that either I've never had, or that I had years ago but no more.

Strange.

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It's not a HUGE deal ... but just a little annoyance.

I'd just like to have a clean and smooth running DP since I've had so many computer issues in the past to make me buy a new (used) Mac Pro ...
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+1. I had enough of it to call MOTU tech support, but (lucky me) I got the guy with the amazingly unhelpful attitude who likes to waste the first five minutes of the phone call arguing that the problem doesn't exist. So, I deal with it by taking a quick detour through a different screen set. It pays to go through the list of Commands and get some nice shortcuts going.
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I can almost universally make that happen in DP7 by switching chunks and immediately changing windows.
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I know this will be a dumb question, but you're using the Consolidated Window? I know that the Tracks Overview won't switch to the new chunk unless it's in the CW.
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This hadn't happened in my few weeks with 8.06, now 8.07 was doing this constantly last night. I could close and reopen DP and get control back. Once it started, there was no stopping it any time I changed sequences.
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There's a preference for this, something like edit windows follow Play Enabled Chunk. (I'm not in front of DP at the moment) do you have that checked?
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I may be talking about a different problem, or simply related. The only thing I do that confuses the windows is when changing the sequence. I'm not switching anything from the chunks window.
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EMRR wrote:I may be talking about a different problem, or simply related. The only thing I do that confuses the windows is when changing the sequence. I'm not switching anything from the chunks window.
Sequences = Chunks

It's apples and apples.

Of course, Chunks can be other things like Songs or V-Racks, but when you talk about switching Sequences, you're talking about switching a Chunk.

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Re: Switching Chunks and only Mixing Board switches

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Yes, but is the behavior identical for all paths? That's what I'm considering. I only use the one path, and I don't chain chunks together.
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