Huge audio issues in Mavericks
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
I just moved up to Mav and 7.24 and sorry to hear all of this. So far, I'm finding things working but I have RME IOs. I have had some crashes but increasing buffers clears them out. Several Freezes have failed but selecting less VI's and doing groups of freezing cures that. I'm staying in Mav for now but wonder how going backwards would even work out. Don't want to even go there.
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
I'm spending the weekend doing a clean install and borrowed a different interface to test out. Here's hoping..
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- daniel.sneed
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
As some others have experiment, no major issue here.
I played two different live shows, with audio and VIs, in DP8.05/OS10.9: no backup, nor hiccup!
Very small annoyances, though. Such as trim increment, but no show-stopper. There has always been some and will always be, I guess...
Most of all, never a crash related to DP8.05/OS10.9 in normal use. And, well, that's a thing for me.
I played two different live shows, with audio and VIs, in DP8.05/OS10.9: no backup, nor hiccup!
Very small annoyances, though. Such as trim increment, but no show-stopper. There has always been some and will always be, I guess...
Most of all, never a crash related to DP8.05/OS10.9 in normal use. And, well, that's a thing for me.
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
Your issues would be less or nonexistent in 64bit.Timeline wrote:I just moved up to Mav and 7.24 and sorry to hear all of this. So far, I'm finding things working but I have RME IOs. I have had some crashes but increasing buffers clears them out. Several Freezes have failed but selecting less VI's and doing groups of freezing cures that. I'm staying in Mav for now but wonder how going backwards would even work out. Don't want to even go there.
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
That was an example of how it can be done. Time Capsules work via WiFi, too and the new towers support 802.11ac which is faster than gigabyte ethernet (as long as the clients support it also). There is no reason to believe that my hidden devices are connected to any of the ethernet cables.Hum, hum... I guess, I do know where it is now...
Having suffered a burglary once, this is not paranoia.
My son-in-law was one of the test engineers on 802.11ac so, for years, I knew it was coming. I bought a new tower with my wife's new MB Air and have A/B'd the speed on huge file transfers. The spec says that 802.11ac is 30% faster. I routinely get 20% faster from any room in the house.
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
Any luck?bdr wrote:I'm spending the weekend doing a clean install and borrowed a different interface to test out. Here's hoping..
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
Thanks for the interest Dan...I believe (fingers crossed) that I'm OK after a clean install. Everything is working fine at the moment, even iTunes. I'm pretty sure it was a driver issue as sometimes I would restart the Mac and the driver wouldn't load properly. Some strange conflict between old and new systems, old and new drivers, and who knows what else.
I'm sure that as soon as I have a client back here though......
Thanks again for all the assistance and thoughts.
I'm sure that as soon as I have a client back here though......
Thanks again for all the assistance and thoughts.
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- mikehalloran
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
Open Console to see what isn't loading correctly. Usually it's benign; other times you will find old junk that needs to be removed.
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
Ha! I know that all too well.bdr wrote:I'm sure that as soon as I have a client back here though......
Glad you got things working.
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
How do you know it's old junk and needs to be removed? And then, how do you remove it?mikehalloran wrote:Open Console to see what isn't loading correctly. Usually it's benign; other times you will find old junk that needs to be removed.
Thanks...
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Re: Huge audio issues in Mavericks
Something will take too long to run. When you open Console, it will show processes failing to load. Run Find File, run GetInfo and see how old it is. My wife's iMac was trying to load video drivers from 2002 once. Another time, Time Machine was not working because it was choking on Finale 2006 Help filesRichard Smith wrote:How do you know it's old junk and needs to be removed? And then, how do you remove it?mikehalloran wrote:Open Console to see what isn't loading correctly. Usually it's benign; other times you will find old junk that needs to be removed.
Thanks...
A common one for DP is the Mackie Control Surfaces plugin. This will cause DP 8 to take forever to load or crash when loading. The fix is to reboot, reinstall DP 8, repair Permissions again.
A Google search helps, too. Some processes that fail to load are fixed by doing a Safe Boot to rebuild certain libraries (boot with Shift Key held down) then shutting down and booting normally.
Some processes will always fail to load or calls will be made to libraries that no longer exist. Code is often sloppy. The problem is when things take too long to load or don't run at all.
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