OS 10.6.8 to ?
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OS 10.6.8 to ?
Hey guys. I know this has been beaten to death, but any off the top of your head thoughts are appreciated, as always.
I have a couple of new purchases that will not work under Snow Leopard (Sonnix new 2.0 Piano and WinClone) so I need to go to at least 10.7.5
I am still running DP 7.24 as it is running good for me, so would you go to OS 10.7.5 or go up to 8?
Thanks again.
I have a couple of new purchases that will not work under Snow Leopard (Sonnix new 2.0 Piano and WinClone) so I need to go to at least 10.7.5
I am still running DP 7.24 as it is running good for me, so would you go to OS 10.7.5 or go up to 8?
Thanks again.
Mac Pro 2.66GHz Dual Quad Core Nahalem, 16 Gigs RAM, DP 9, RME Fireface 800, MOTU MIDIexpress 128, Mac OS 10.8.5
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
I just recently updated my dual quad core 2.8GHz MacPro to 10.8.4. DP 7.24 is running great on it. So far, not a single crash or spinning ball.
Phil
Phil
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
I'm still back on a MacPro 1,1. I tried Lion (which was the last OS for my machine) and it felt slow, so I went back to Snow Leopard. But everything I've read seems to indicate that 10.8 was an improvement over 10.7 and you should got to 10.8.cbergm7210 wrote:I am still running DP 7.24 as it is running good for me, so would you go to OS 10.7.5 or go up to 8?
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- cbergm7210
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
That's the kind of insight I need. Thanks, JS. The last thing I want is any kind of slowness creeping into my workflow as it's running smooth right now.James Steele wrote:I'm still back on a MacPro 1,1. I tried Lion (which was the last OS for my machine) and it felt slow, so I went back to Snow Leopard. But everything I've read seems to indicate that 10.8 was an improvement over 10.7 and you should got to 10.8.cbergm7210 wrote:I am still running DP 7.24 as it is running good for me, so would you go to OS 10.7.5 or go up to 8?
Hey Phil, what year is your machine?
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Yes... but from what I understand 10.8 was a more optimized version of 10.7 and it was only slightly slow on MY old hardware. On your machine it would probably be fine and if I were you, I wouldn't hesitate to go to 10.8.cbergm7210 wrote:That's the kind of insight I need. Thanks, JS. The last thing I want is any kind of slowness creeping into my workflow as it's running smooth right now.James Steele wrote:I'm still back on a MacPro 1,1. I tried Lion (which was the last OS for my machine) and it felt slow, so I went back to Snow Leopard. But everything I've read seems to indicate that 10.8 was an improvement over 10.7 and you should got to 10.8.cbergm7210 wrote:I am still running DP 7.24 as it is running good for me, so would you go to OS 10.7.5 or go up to 8?
Hey Phil, what year is your machine?
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
I never tried 10.7, I went from 10.68 to 10.82 &10.83, without any problems.
Snow Leopard works well for me,I will update to 10.84 in the next few days.
Snow Leopard works well for me,I will update to 10.84 in the next few days.
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
Went from 10.6.8 to 10.8.2, best thing I've done in a long time.. I would blow past Lion altogether- Mountain Lion rocks!
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- cbergm7210
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
Sweet. Thanks, guys. This is what I needed from the MOTUNATION Brotherhood.
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
Mountain Lion: a much better Lion than just plain ol' Lion.
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
This one (2008):cbergm7210 wrote:Hey Phil, what year is your machine?
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP11
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
GO straight to 10.8.4. I'm on a 3,1; 3.2 gHz machine and it's a great OS. Never did the Lion thing either, and I ain't lyin'
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
My reminder: Clone or (risk a) Moan.
That said, I am running solid and trouble free under 10.8.3 and DP 8.04 64 bit on my 5,1 Hex.
That said, I am running solid and trouble free under 10.8.3 and DP 8.04 64 bit on my 5,1 Hex.
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- cbergm7210
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
Absolutely, sir.HCMarkus wrote:My reminder: Clone or (risk a) Moan.
That said, I am running solid and trouble free under 10.8.3 and DP 8.04 64 bit on my 5,1 Hex.
Mac Pro 2.66GHz Dual Quad Core Nahalem, 16 Gigs RAM, DP 9, RME Fireface 800, MOTU MIDIexpress 128, Mac OS 10.8.5
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
FWIW, I migrated FROM A TIME MACHINE BACKUP! from 10.6.8 to 10.8.3 and all went smoothly. Reauthorized DP,MS Office, Adobe stuff but that was pretty much it.
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Re: OS 10.6.8 to ?
Are you running in 64 bits? I don't recall if you can do that or not from 7.x.
Anyway, DP 8.04 has been working great for me. I have had two problems, but I traced them to external sources; not DP. One was that DP Control quit working for me. I'd been recording every day, and suddenly one day it just didn't work. I could not get a connection with my computer. There are frightfully few variables to work with when something like that happens and DP Control (on the iPad) won't connect. After hours of reading manuals, searching forums online, and messing with router settings, I finally rebooted the router. Everything worked again. I should mention that our MacBook Pro's and our wireless printer, and even an iPad all had suddenly had trouble accessing wirelessly, so obviously that was a WIFI Router problem, and didn't have anything to do with DP Control directly.
The other problem had to do with disk access. It's like all access just stopped, and I could not get DP to play. I tried rebooting DP, but had to force-quit it and then it would not reboot! Could not open DP at all. Well, it turned out that NOTHING was working. Safari, Preview, Mail… nothing. Not even the Finder. It was the entire computer, and it's happened again without DP even being open, so I've got a problem somewhere deep in the OS. (OS X 10.8.4) I'll probably figure it out in about a year. Until then, I'm just restarting the computer periodically, and that seems to keep things working. By "periodically," I mean once a day, before I start working on anything. I had gotten in the habit of not restarting my computer… EVER. Months at a time. Well, it's good practice to restart every day, even if you don't think you need it.
DP 8.04 itself seems to be pretty bullet-proof, as long as it can get its claws into a data stream. As long as I keep my Mac Pro rebooted now and then it has no problems getting what it needs. Personally, I feel like DP 8.x in general is a little more sluggish that DP7.x. When chaining Chunks and listening to a whole album of mixes straight through, it seems to take forever to switch chunks, and that's with very few plugins; probably Altiverb, Slate's FX-G, Waves H-EQ (x3), and an MS-Decoder. That's all. It should not take 15 or 20 seconds between chunks, but that's about what it's doing.
Other than an occasional bit of sluggishness, I'm overall very pleased with DP8.04.
If your question to upgrade to 8.04 also includes going from 32 to 64 bit, well, that's a different story altogether. Going to 64 bits for me was a major ordeal, tracking down the 64 bit upgrades to everything I use, or using J-Bridge for the one or two items I can't do without, but which are not yet 64 bits. That was a computer-wide ordeal, involving upgrading Photoshop, Illustrator, MS Office, and probably dozens of other things.
But I'm guessing you're beyond the 32-bit/64-bit question, and are only concerned with DP8. If that's the case, then upgrade to 8.04 and don't look back. Be warned that 8.0 through 8.0 through 8.02 had little bugs. Go right to 8.04, ok?
I think you'll be glad you did. Really. If toodamnhip liked it, it must be without error. (His comment was "why did it take so long, MOTU?" )
Shooshie
Anyway, DP 8.04 has been working great for me. I have had two problems, but I traced them to external sources; not DP. One was that DP Control quit working for me. I'd been recording every day, and suddenly one day it just didn't work. I could not get a connection with my computer. There are frightfully few variables to work with when something like that happens and DP Control (on the iPad) won't connect. After hours of reading manuals, searching forums online, and messing with router settings, I finally rebooted the router. Everything worked again. I should mention that our MacBook Pro's and our wireless printer, and even an iPad all had suddenly had trouble accessing wirelessly, so obviously that was a WIFI Router problem, and didn't have anything to do with DP Control directly.
The other problem had to do with disk access. It's like all access just stopped, and I could not get DP to play. I tried rebooting DP, but had to force-quit it and then it would not reboot! Could not open DP at all. Well, it turned out that NOTHING was working. Safari, Preview, Mail… nothing. Not even the Finder. It was the entire computer, and it's happened again without DP even being open, so I've got a problem somewhere deep in the OS. (OS X 10.8.4) I'll probably figure it out in about a year. Until then, I'm just restarting the computer periodically, and that seems to keep things working. By "periodically," I mean once a day, before I start working on anything. I had gotten in the habit of not restarting my computer… EVER. Months at a time. Well, it's good practice to restart every day, even if you don't think you need it.
DP 8.04 itself seems to be pretty bullet-proof, as long as it can get its claws into a data stream. As long as I keep my Mac Pro rebooted now and then it has no problems getting what it needs. Personally, I feel like DP 8.x in general is a little more sluggish that DP7.x. When chaining Chunks and listening to a whole album of mixes straight through, it seems to take forever to switch chunks, and that's with very few plugins; probably Altiverb, Slate's FX-G, Waves H-EQ (x3), and an MS-Decoder. That's all. It should not take 15 or 20 seconds between chunks, but that's about what it's doing.
Other than an occasional bit of sluggishness, I'm overall very pleased with DP8.04.
If your question to upgrade to 8.04 also includes going from 32 to 64 bit, well, that's a different story altogether. Going to 64 bits for me was a major ordeal, tracking down the 64 bit upgrades to everything I use, or using J-Bridge for the one or two items I can't do without, but which are not yet 64 bits. That was a computer-wide ordeal, involving upgrading Photoshop, Illustrator, MS Office, and probably dozens of other things.
But I'm guessing you're beyond the 32-bit/64-bit question, and are only concerned with DP8. If that's the case, then upgrade to 8.04 and don't look back. Be warned that 8.0 through 8.0 through 8.02 had little bugs. Go right to 8.04, ok?
I think you'll be glad you did. Really. If toodamnhip liked it, it must be without error. (His comment was "why did it take so long, MOTU?" )
Shooshie
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