Absolutely shut them off when using VEpro 64 bit server. They are unnecessary at best and likely will cause memory access conflicts.hrw wrote:Is it better to switch off the memory servers in Kontakt and Spectrasonics if they're being used in VE Pro which already accesses all your RAM?
DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
Same thing happened to me today for the first time. I got a DP error message saying all the samples were missing (yikes!) but it turned out that was only true for Kontakt, and it was missing its patches as well. Fortunately I was only running four patches on four channels in one instance of Kontakt (with 4 more VIs). So I reloaded the programs and saved the project and continued on with mixing. Imagine my surprise when I opened the project up later to find Kontakt blank again. So I reloaded it and saved again and this time it took (I hope).
In my case, I suspect Session Drummer, which uses a LOT of samples. Maybe it was because I had two programs on two channels of the same kit (so I could bring up the cross-stick relative to the snare, which are on the same fader in the Session Drummer mixer). I don't know but I will keep watching this thread. If anybody finds a solution other than tediously remembering to save all your Kontakt multis (and save them again after any tweak) please let us know.
In my case, I suspect Session Drummer, which uses a LOT of samples. Maybe it was because I had two programs on two channels of the same kit (so I could bring up the cross-stick relative to the snare, which are on the same fader in the Session Drummer mixer). I don't know but I will keep watching this thread. If anybody finds a solution other than tediously remembering to save all your Kontakt multis (and save them again after any tweak) please let us know.
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
I know, that's crazy! I have no idea why this happen and the worst thing is that apparently there's no solution!!!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
Another one here who's seen that a lot. I don't use Session Pro Strings so definitely not the problem here. I have several instances of K5 and I usually have one that shows up empty when I reload the project sometimes 2.
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
This happens to me too. I have multi's saved to reload but still..... I think it happens more often when DP is close to using 2 gigs of ram.
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
I agree with that guess. I've noticed this annoying behavior more on larger projects with Omnisphere, Kontakt5 and Mach5 3. Going to the autosaved version, saving and then loading the multi into the the newer saved sequence works as a workaround, but it's important to check the VIs as soon as you reopen any crashed files right away - before Autosave creates a backup (with the vacant/empty VIs).
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
Yeah, sucks.
Just had a crash and re-opened project to find all my NI Massive instances with no pathes loaded!
Grrr...
Just had a crash and re-opened project to find all my NI Massive instances with no pathes loaded!
Grrr...
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
Same thing here, I got a crash using the abbey road drums spending a lot of time tweaking my sounds and when reopen the session Kontakt was blank! Honestly I don't want to use the damn kontakt anymore!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
Did you try my workaround (posted above)? That should have resurrected the k5 patch.delcosmos wrote:Same thing here, I got a crash using the abbey road drums spending a lot of time tweaking my sounds and when reopen the session Kontakt was blank! Honestly I don't want to use the damn kontakt anymore!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
As a matter of habit, because of DP issues of the past, and frustrating losses of work, I still save a backup copy of my projects every time I open them to do some work. It has saved my ass numerous times.kinnylandrum wrote:If anybody finds a solution other than tediously remembering to save all your Kontakt multis (and save them again after any tweak) please let us know.
I recommend it. My process is to duplicate the current project file as a backup and then just add a date to the file name, and then continue working with the main project file. In the event that something goes wonky or presets go missing, I can always open up a previous state of the file to resolve issues. On some occasions presets have gone missing (like after trying to get started with an auto-saved version of the document). In that case I will just go back to a previous state and at that point save the Kontakt or other VI multi so that I can go back into the main project file and load the multi and restore the missing patches.
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
It's a big problem because you cannot always save a multi with Kontakt, depends on the library copyright, It's a bummer! It's not Kontakt, it's definitively a DP issue...
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
I just got LA Scoring Strings 2 and that has happened to me as well. Frustrating! Look at my specs below. I cannot wait for DP 8 64 bit nirvana! I want to use all of my RAM!! Bwaaaaaaaa!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
I've also had this bug, quite a bit with DP 7.24, K4, Omnisphere, and I've been getting around it by saving multis in K4. Once DP crashes, sometimes it will crash repeatedly when opening up the the sequence file. I've been able to fix that by creating a blank sequence, create instances on K4, Omnisphere and then close DP normally and reopen. This is a highly annoying bug. Please fix it MOTU!
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
sponstage, are you talking about Kontakt Player of Kontakt Full? I'm using Kontakt Full 5.02 and have never had a problem saving a multi, no matter which library (or combination of libraries) I'm using?sponstage wrote:It's a big problem because you cannot always save a multi with Kontakt, depends on the library copyright
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Re: DP 7.24 crashing... re open and Kontakt instances blank!
It happens with Kontakt full, don't know why.
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