Bouncing to Disk - Quicktime Movie

[cowtothesky]

Hey,
I'm working on a film that has the voiceovers and sound effects on the .mov file. I imported the movie and scored the music. I mixed the movie file by controlling the volume slider on the movie window. I currently have it set at about 35% volume. What I would like to do is bounce the movie to disk and include the movie voiceovers and sound effects at the volume I have set on the window.

I've checked the manual and couldn't find anything on it. When I bounce to disk, the movie sounds are gone and I couldn't find any option to include it. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Manual page number? Direct advise?

Thanks

[FMiguelez]

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You can only get audio in the QT movie by having it within a DP audio track when bouncing. You must mix it in DP first, just like a normal audio-only bounce.

What you can do is import whatever audio is in the QT movie into DP (check the QT window mini-menu). Once it's in a DP track, you could match the levels to be the way they are now.

I really do not recommend using the audio within the QT movie. Not as reference and not for mixing. It's inaccurate in timing.

I suggest you always import the QT audio into DP first, and then delete the audio in the QT movie (or at least mute it). If you have QT Pro, it's a piece of cake to delete it.

[cowtothesky]

Thanks! I ended up getting an aif file from the sound designer and used Roxio to convert it to a wav and dropped the wav file into a stereo track. Judging by what you wrote, there must be a way to import it from the mini-menu instead of going through all of the converting outside of DP. Thanks - good to know about the timing issue as well. I didn't realize that was a problem in QT.

[FMiguelez]

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Yeah, it's much much much faster to get the audio into DP from the QT movie directly. It takes no longer than a few seconds.

Not in front of DP now, but it's called something like "Copy QT audio", or something like that. You'll see the command in the QT movie window mini-menu right away.

Now, about your using Roxio to convert to Wav... if you don't mind my asking, why would you do that?
You can do the conversion from AIFF to Wav and vice-versa right inside DP. It's much faster and efficient too

[cowtothesky]

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Yeah, it's much much much faster to get the audio into DP from the QT movie directly. It takes no longer than a few seconds.

Not in front of DP now, but it's called something like "Copy QT audio", or something like that. You'll see the command in the QT movie window mini-menu right away.

Now, about your using Roxio to convert to Wav... if you don't mind my asking, why would you do that?
You can do the conversion from AIFF to Wav and vice-versa right inside DP. It's much faster and efficient too

That is a part of DP that I haven't lunged into yet. I wasn't sure if I could do that kind of conversion in DP and I was searching for the wrong thing in the manual. Honestly - what I had to do was grab the aif file from a server he posted to using quicktime's 'open url'. Then, I saved it, but QT would only allow me to save it as a mov file. I scoured through my apps and found Roxio could do the conversion to wav. Before I could do the conversion, I had to update Roxio and download a 500mb file. It was a total pain in the ass.

Next time, I am taking your advise and doing it in DP! Thanks again, man.

[williemyers]

Cowto...here's kind of a "play-by-play";
1. Import your QT movie in to a new DP sequence.
2. Once you've determined the movie's correct start point ("Set Movie Start Time" DP7/pg.724), do the movie window command "Copy Movie Audio to Sequence" DP7/pg.724. DP will create a new audio track containing all of the audio from your movie. You could rename this track "Dialogue/SFX" or something like that.
3. Now, turn the Volume Slider of the Movie Window (DP7/pg.723) all of the way off - - you'll only be listening to "Dialogue/SFX" as you create your cue.
4. When you've completed your cue, bounce/layback all of your MIDI/audio music tracks in to a single stereo audio track - -call it "Music Mix".
5. You're just about done! Mute everything *except* "Dialogue/SFX" & "Music Mix", make sure they're set for the same outputs and get a balance of these two, stereo trax. You can automate them.
6. Finally, "select" these two tracks ("Dialogue/SFX" & "Music Mix"), and go to Audio>Bounce to Disk (DP7/pg.974) and in the "file formant" options, pick "Quicktime Export:Movie". Follow the rest of the steps and, when it's finished bouncing, you'll have a new, QT movie with mixed "Dialogue/SFX" & "Music Mix"!

It's all done inside DP - - no need for seperate files or apps or anything

[cowtothesky]

Thanks man. Works like a charm. The only thing I didn't do is bounce my MIDI/audio tracks to a single track. I kept them all on separate tracks and just mixed the separate sound design track with the music and bounced it down to a quicktime movie. Works great.

I will probably do step 4 on longer films to free up resources.

I didn't even notice the "copy QT audio" feature. Thanks for pointing this out, man.

[nyplugin]

Hi guys,

I've noticed a very strange thing. I tried to export the project exactly as explained but I end up having a .mov file which autmatically set its volume on zero. I have no idea why.
I copied the audio of the original QT movie to the sequencer and turn the Volume Slider of the Movie Window all of the way off, that's why when I export the QT movie the volume is off.
What can I do?
Thank you all!

[MIDI Life Crisis]

That's just plain weird. Never seen that. You might delete the QTime plist.

[nyplugin]

I just have to turn the volume of the QT movie up once is exported and save it again and it works, so strange!
How can I delete the QT plist? and once I've done that I need to reinstall QT?
Thank you very much

[MIDI Life Crisis]

You don't need to reinstall QT. Look up deleting plists at the Apple Discussions site or Google it. Maybe someone with extra time can jump in. I don't have time right now.

[nyplugin]

Yes, I deleted the QT .plists but still the same problem. so weird!

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Is it always the same movie? Have you tried others? Perhaps something is embedded in the quicktime file itself?

[nyplugin]

You were right! I started a new project with a new video and everything works good!
I don't know why, maybe it was that video...

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Something is embedded. You could probably reset it via Quicktime Pro, which should be on every system. I think it is the properties tab, but why DP would output like that is the odd part. A ha! Have you tried DUPLICATING the original video instead of using a reference file? That might force DP to rebuild the .mov file. Worth a try.