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Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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When loading data audio files into a session from a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM (not an audio CD), and with DP set to import audio into the project's file folder, I get an error on import:

"Digital Performer has encountered an error. Mac OS error: Disk is full (-34)"

I would expect to see an error if for some reason DP was trying to write back to the original CD ROM. I never had this trouble in DP 5.

I've tried setting prefs to "convert file on import" (even though no conversion was required), got a different error: "Not enough space on the disc 'CLEO' (31058K needed, 0K available) which is sort of proof that DP is trying to write back to the original CD-ROM; the project disk is named 'AHAMMER A-1,' and the CD-ROM source disk is named 'CLEO.' After that dialog, the audio shows up in the track but the session is reading the file off the CD-ROM, NOT the project folder.

Workaround is to copy the files to the hard drive in the Finder and then import them into the session.

Anyone else seen this?
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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I've noticed this too, I also get it when I try to import audio from our XSAN server. All was fine inf DP5.xx but with 6 its changed.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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Exactly the same happen to me..
Can't find any solution yet ..
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tobysan wrote:Exactly the same happen to me..
Can't find any solution yet ..
Ditto.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Ditto.

I've entered this as a techlink, I'll report back if/when any response or action is indicated.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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I've never been able to do that. I think I just drag from a CD into the tracks window.
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Dave Connor wrote:I've never been able to do that. I think I just drag from a CD into the tracks window.

Are you talking Audio CD or data files? I'm talking data. I used to be able to do both audio CDs and data files from CDs directly into tracks in 5.13.

I haven't tried importing directly from audio CDs in 6.01, mostly because I don't trust the process and import from audios CDs by recording from a CD player with a SPDIF output.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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ghobish wrote:
Dave Connor wrote:I've never been able to do that. I think I just drag from a CD into the tracks window.

Are you talking Audio CD or data files? I'm talking data. I used to be able to do both audio CDs and data files from CDs directly into tracks in 5.13.

I haven't tried importing directly from audio CDs in 6.01, mostly because I don't trust the process and import from audios CDs by recording from a CD player with a SPDIF output.
Whats not to trust?

there would be less errors than recording from SPDIF me thinks
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kassonica wrote:
ghobish wrote:
Dave Connor wrote:I've never been able to do that. I think I just drag from a CD into the tracks window.

Are you talking Audio CD or data files? I'm talking data. I used to be able to do both audio CDs and data files from CDs directly into tracks in 5.13.

I haven't tried importing directly from audio CDs in 6.01, mostly because I don't trust the process and import from audios CDs by recording from a CD player with a SPDIF output.
Whats not to trust?

there would be less errors than recording from SPDIF me thinks
I occasionally get clicks and artifacts. This has happened on a wide swath of optical readers on different machines. Rarely, but it happens. If I import from SPDIF, I can monitor it in real time as it records- and I NEVER get the errors.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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ghobish wrote:I occasionally get clicks and artifacts. This has happened on a wide swath of optical readers on different machines. Rarely, but it happens. If I import from SPDIF, I can monitor it in real time as it records- and I NEVER get the errors.
I used to get this all the time on my Quicksilver G4. The problem went away when I got a Mac Pro. I've always assumed it was a problem with the optical drive, but you say you've seen it with several drives? Hmm.

I've also seen the problem you describe with data discs. I just bite the bullet and copy the files to my HD and then drag to DP. I hadn't given it much thought beyond that. Perhaps it is indeed a bug.

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Phil O wrote:
ghobish wrote:I occasionally get clicks and artifacts. This has happened on a wide swath of optical readers on different machines. Rarely, but it happens. If I import from SPDIF, I can monitor it in real time as it records- and I NEVER get the errors.
I used to get this all the time on my Quicksilver G4. The problem went away when I got a Mac Pro. I've always assumed it was a problem with the optical drive, but you say you've seen it with several drives? Hmm.

Phil
Like I said, it's a rare occurrence- but whenever it does happen, it costs me a few hours to redo the import and check it, and it costs me in embarrassment when a small click gets by me and into a client's product. For my workflow, it's more efficient to record in real time, monitoring as I go in.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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ghobish wrote:
Dave Connor wrote:I've never been able to do that. I think I just drag from a CD into the tracks window.

Are you talking Audio CD or data files? I'm talking data. I used to be able to do both audio CDs and data files from CDs directly into tracks in 5.13.

I haven't tried importing directly from audio CDs in 6.01, mostly because I don't trust the process and import from audios CDs by recording from a CD player with a SPDIF output.
There's the 'Import Audio' function in the Soundbite window which always produces an error. So yes I just drag the Audio or Data from the CD into DP tracks window.

However! I just tried Import Audio in the Soundbite window from an audio CD and it worked. Maybe it got fixed in 5.13 cause I can't remember it working in other versions.
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I just drag the file off the disk say to the desktop and import from there.

Never a problem if you have good disks.
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kassonica wrote:I just drag the file off the disk say to the desktop and import from there.

Never a problem if you have good disks.
Once is enough to make me not trust the process- besides, you don't know if you have a good disk until you know that you don't, if you know what I mean. In any event, importing from audio cd's is not the issue.
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Re: Error when importing audio from CD-ROM

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ghobish wrote:
kassonica wrote:I just drag the file off the disk say to the desktop and import from there.

Never a problem if you have good disks.
Once is enough to make me not trust the process- besides, you don't know if you have a good disk until you know that you don't, if you know what I mean. In any event, importing from audio cd's is not the issue.
Indeed.

It sounds like a bug
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